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well greetings and salutations

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and welcome back my friends to another

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exciting edition

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of the mystery man show

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this is the midnight hour where we

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explore

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all the things paranormal

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and we investigate for you

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some of the greatest mysteries on planet

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earth

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and some of the greatest mysteries that

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i've ever heard of involve ghosts and

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demons

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is there really an afterlife and if so

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can the people that have

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let's say passed over

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kind of reach back into the land of the

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living and communicate or

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somehow affect this world still

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and even more scary what about demons

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because we hear a lot of stories about

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hauntings where people say well that's

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not a human entity or ghost

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that is a demon

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and those tend to be

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the cases of the most severe

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and scary honestly uh phenomenon that

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and so i have a particular interest in

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that kind of stuff

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and there are people who study this

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stuff

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and more particularly study

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the the science

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of demonology

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naming them

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learning about them and their

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capabilities

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these uh parapsychologists kind of are

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fighting demons to get demons out of

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people's houses or to get demons

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you know to stop oppressing someone

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and even more interesting to me is

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the phenomenon of possession

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i mean that is really a scary thing

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imagine a demon coming and possessing

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and forcing their will upon the world

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through your physical body

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is that even possible

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i i've heard and read of so many

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different cases but tonight we're gonna

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get uh an inside view into things like

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ghosts and more importantly demons

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from somebody that has studied them for

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many years now

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and he's a person that is well respected

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in paranormal circles because of his

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uh

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study of ufos

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you may have seen tonight's guest on the

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ufo hunters

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or ufos over pittsburgh his own show

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this man has spent his uh

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life really

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dedicated to investigating paranormal

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things

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the most interesting thing i think about

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tonight's show is that tonight for the

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first time ever he's going to share his

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own personal experience in dealing with

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some kind of strange spiritual

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demonic

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entities

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which affected his life

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not exactly a positive light as you

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dealing with and investigating the

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having his own sort of strange spiritual

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ghostly or let's say demonic experiences

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that i could possibly trust

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not only has he spent a great deal of

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time investigating all kinds of

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different paranormal phenomenon

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and that's what separates him from some

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of these people that are just talking

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this man had his own personal

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experiences with let's say

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spiritual entities that were outside of

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when they thought they had a haunted

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house or some people would just

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kind of run away and uh you know not

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really confront the situation

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guy i got it i gotta say this guy's got

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huge balls because i don't know that i

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would have those kind of balls

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when confronted with this kind of uh

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power

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paranormal phenomenon

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and strange occurrences and you know it

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goes beyond the range of maybe this is

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he faced some really strange

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phenomenon that couldn't be explained

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away by normal

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natural means and not only did he face

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life

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what can only be described as demonic

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forces

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ask any paranormal investigator is much

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you know a ghostly infestation

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during this interview

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you know there's a huge difference

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someone who has a house that is maybe

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affected by the spirits of

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i suppose still drawn to that location

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or whatever the case may be but there's

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that have passed on and are still

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affecting this world or you know trying

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to communicate with this world

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that these two separate and and

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so tonight's expert guest is john ventry

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who has been on a whole bunch of

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different television shows you may have

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you may have seen him on ufos over

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pittsburgh his own show

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about ufos and the ufo phenomenon

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but tonight he's going to be talking

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mostly about

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demons and demonology and his own

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experience with what he believes to be

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demonic entities

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but before we get to that i am gonna

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have to ask him some questions about

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general ufo stuff because that's one of

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my major interests so please bear with

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as we begin the interview we'll talk

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about ufos but we'll get into this

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whole experience that he had with demons

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as the interview progresses without

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looked into so many ufo things but i i

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have to admit that i'm not big on the

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abduction thing

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i've

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read a whole bunch of stuff but to me a

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lot of the abduction thing is it's

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somebody telling a story with no

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corroboration no

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no proof i even heard

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on my show is this david jacobs because

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he was a temple university professor

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yeah yeah i'm right in philadelphia

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and one of the things that he said is

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that he has some of his people that he's

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working with that get abducted once a

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week

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and i wanted to ask him then why don't

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person for a few weeks and we can get

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some proof of this thing but he's never

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done that it's just hypnotic regression

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stories of this stuff i believe that

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people are genuinely having some kind of

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experience but i don't

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necessarily extraterrestrials coming out

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of flying saucers and abducting these

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people

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but i've left the possibility open

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and you have some interesting theories

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about what it could actually be

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yeah i actually do and you know uh

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jacobs he spoke in philly at my

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conference in october he just spoke uh

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in april at my eerie conference and i

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agree with a lot of his research but i

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don't agree with the source of the

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abductions he claims these are

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extraterrestrials and they're breeding

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hybrids who are now hubrids

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which are mostly human and and being

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controlled and infiltrating everything

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and i view it as something else i see

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this as a malevolent inter-dimensional

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entity and i think that uh

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it's more along the biblical lines of

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nephilim is it's what it is now it's

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probably all the same stuff but we're

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calling it different things

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and uh you know so some of the things

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that you know in my mind i look i've

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done some research and i give a real

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good presentation i'm going to be doing

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it in philly uh this october

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and uh how i think this relates to your

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abductions now

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thirty percent of people have had a

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paranormal experience

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fourteen percent of people have seen the

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ufo and just under three percent believe

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they've been abducted when you look at

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paranormal contact the positive contact

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near death experiences almost always

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positive encounters with nordics or

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angels have always been positive on the

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negative side

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encounters with the grays

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bigfoot shadow people slenderman

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reptilians and insectoids are always

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yeah well i i guess that stands to

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reason because you have these nordics or

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angels that are always described as you

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know bloody human blue-eyed extremely

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attractive

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yeah and and then you have these other

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entities that come across as almost a

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horror movie you know yeah

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absolutely and they come from see i i

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believe this is an inter-dimensional

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thing uh and and i don't i don't believe

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any longer that they actually fly here

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in a nuts and bolts ship i think this is

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an interdimensional thing even though

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there has to be life out there there's

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8.8 billion earth-like planets just in

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the milky way galaxy

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so there has to be a life out there but

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i think what we're encountering

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encountering is

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is inter-dimensional and i think there's

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a malevolent group and they're that

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hates us and there's this uh guardian

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group that that protects us i really

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believe that 100

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and uh so so you know what i what i did

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was i said okay let's i spent almost two

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years now

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looking at demonology exorcism

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paranormal stuff

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and uh you know i've come up with a lot

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of good information and i'm about ready

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to publish a book probably in july on

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this

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that's really going to tell you

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everything you need to know about uh

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demonology and interdimensional type

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spirits but

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but here's just some stuff maybe you

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know there's some other shows and maybe

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you don't

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ghosts right ghosts are basically human

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spirits they died they have some sort of

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unfinished business they're not able to

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move large objects they can move smaller

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items

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you know they can move a piece of paper

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they maybe can hide your keys you know

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something like that uh when it happens

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but they are not powerful enough to uh

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you know throw uh tables around your

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kitchen and

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and and books and levitate and stuff

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that's not a ghost a ghost is pretty

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much lost it's here and the interesting

348
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thing is you cannot have an exorcism and

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get rid of a ghost they're not demonic

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the church cannot rid your house of a

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ghost you can ask it to go to the light

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if it doesn't want to it can stay

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forever you can have a poltergeist

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forever because they have free will

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they're just lost

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yeah i've i've heard that in a lot of my

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readings of just paranormal stuff that

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when somebody has a haunting in their

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home if it's low level not very

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malevolent you know it could be

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former resident of the home that is

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somehow still dwelling there

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as a ghost it's a former human spirit

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but the really serious scary stuff where

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there's really a huge amount of activity

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and all this other stuff turns out to be

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demonic usually yeah absolutely yeah and

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there's really three types of entities

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so you have ghosts the second one are

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elementals i mean you know like these

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are words i've heard but i couldn't tell

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you what they meant an elemental is a

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spirit from nature or animals

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right so white witches or wiccans they

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call upon elementals so these are

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spirits that are in nature and in

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animals so they call upon those

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inhuman spirits is the third type those

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are angels and demons

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black witches call upon

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inhuman spirits

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the demonic spirits

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now the interesting thing with this is

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when they appear they they usually

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cannot materialize a hundred percent

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that's why when you think about the

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ghost movies and stuff you've seen

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it'll be the head of the person the head

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in the body missing legs missing arms

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um the lower level uh demons can not

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they're not powerful enough to

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materialize a hundred percent there's

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always some body parts missing now the

394
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thing is there are demons and there are

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devils

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i thought the devil was one guy lucifer

397
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who became satan i i had no idea that

398
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there are multiple devils those are

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those higher level fallen angels and

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i'll get to that in a second

401
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they're much more powerful

402
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they can manipulate matter

403
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those can appear in full form they can

404
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appear as other creatures they can

405
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appear as ufos now that's interesting

406
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they're powerful enough to put a ufo in

407
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the sky

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on radar that can be seen

409
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and it's probably why a lot of these

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just blink out and we think they're

411
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cloaking and disappearing but there may

412
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be another answer to this

413
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so uh then what i did

414
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was i i went through

415
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demonology books and all my ufo

416
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knowledge

417
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and i put a list together a long list of

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markers or signs of the demonic and

419
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which ones overlap

420
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with ufo abductions

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so this will take me a few minutes just

422
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to run through i'll tell you where they

423
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fall in and i've had

424
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about 60 percent of these happen to me

425
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or my kids unfortunately the signs of a

426
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demonic encounter so um the ones that

427
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can be uh i'll tell you what they are

428
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all of a sudden the room gets cold

429
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that's demonic if you see white smoke or

430
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:53,600
white orb that can be demonic or ufo

431
00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:57,200
if something writes backwards demonic

432
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,640
if you get poked like needles poking you

433
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:03,840
demonic you see a hairy creature it can

434
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,760
be demonic or ufo if you're scratched or

435
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,799
bitten

436
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,919
demonic

437
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:12,000
if you have difficulty breathing

438
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pressure on your chest paralysis while

439
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:18,320
awake or feeling an entity slipping in

440
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:19,760
and out of you

441
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:23,200
that can be demonic or ufo

442
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:24,799
being able to speak in different

443
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,000
languages or a guttural deep voice

444
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:29,280
demonic

445
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:32,640
having vivid lucid dreams waking up

446
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:36,400
drenched in sweat demonic or ufo

447
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,679
your dog becomes agitated or provoked

448
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:41,760
demonic or ufo

449
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:44,960
birds striking your windows or singing

450
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,720
at night because birds don't sing at

451
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,480
night demonic

452
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:50,880
okay anything that happens in threes

453
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:54,080
three knocks three footsteps three times

454
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demonic

455
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,240
waking up between three and four am can

456
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:00,880
be either demonic or ufo

457
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:04,559
hearing a baby crying demonic tapping or

458
00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:06,880
scratching on the walls or ceiling

459
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,159
demonic

460
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,559
feeling you're being watched the monocle

461
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,919
or ufo

462
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,080
black or smoky

463
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,400
shape or a shadow type person

464
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,440
demonic or ufo now get this one i never

465
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,080
knew a spontaneous human combustion or

466
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,559
spontaneous combustion where an object

467
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:26,960
or a rug or something bursts into flames

468
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:30,320
on its own that's clearly demonic and i

469
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:31,760
never knew that spontaneous human

470
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:34,320
combustion really was a demonic entity i

471
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:35,440
always thought it was a chemical

472
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:37,840
reaction in the person's body but that's

473
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actually a demonic entity and i'll give

474
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:41,840
an example of that later that happened

475
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:42,799
to me

476
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,360
just recently uh last month

477
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um

478
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that's scary

479
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we've also heard

480
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,080
that

481
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if you

482
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have a rotting smell

483
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or a smell of roses

484
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that's some indication of of either

485
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,480
spiritual or demonic activity

486
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the roses are positive that's spiritual

487
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:11,039
but that's angelic the rotting smell is

488
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demonic

489
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okay

490
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:16,240
i don't know where i left off here lots

491
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,159
of time or memory can be ufo or demonic

492
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:22,080
you see somebody standing at the foot of

493
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your bed ufo or demonic

494
00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:27,440
having flies in your house like a bunch

495
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of them is demonic

496
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,200
somebody in your family gets targeted

497
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:36,159
that's demonic or ufo you hear some sort

498
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,720
of pounding or shaking or loud noises

499
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demonic or ufo

500
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large objects that move on their own or

501
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:48,480
damaged broken thrown that's demonic

502
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,240
personality changes demonic or ufo

503
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,880
hearing voices of dead relatives is

504
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demonic

505
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uh telepathic messages or images in your

506
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:01,840
mind demonic or ufo

507
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,640
unable to wake someone from sleep that's

508
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demonic

509
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,520
evil obscene thoughts and presence in

510
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your mind is demonic

511
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somebody being able to blurt out

512
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unconfessed sins like during an exorcism

513
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is demonic

514
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losing faith or not attending church

515
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like after a divorce

516
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that happens in demonic and ufo cases

517
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car or electrical problems stalling

518
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is the moniker ufo

519
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,360
out of body experience or levitating the

520
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monocle ufo

521
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sexual encounter pregnancy like hybrids

522
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the moniker ufo

523
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seeing an incubus gargoyle or reptile

524
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demonical ufo hive mentality demonic or

525
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ufo and the most important one is you

526
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,200
can repel

527
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:59,840
demonic or ufo

528
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by using the name of jesus christ now i

529
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,279
find that list unbelievable

530
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:07,919
but true yeah that's a it's a just an

531
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,400
awful big list you know the only the

532
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,480
only experience i ever had with ghosts

533
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,320
or demonic entities or anything like

534
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:16,400
that is that my wife and i are first

535
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,600
home

536
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,440
well you know we were just starting out

537
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,919
we were on a real tight budget but

538
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,320
we found this real cheap home

539
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,480
and the downside was it was right across

540
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,159
from a graveyard

541
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,480
yeah but being in the city

542
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,720
we went we looked at the place and we

543
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,720
said look at that across the street

544
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,520
there's parking like the whole street is

545
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empty

546
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and so we moved in there

547
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,000
and honestly it became a joke after a

548
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:47,120
while because we heard rapping tapping

549
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,480
banging

550
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and uh

551
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,400
we had a next-door neighbor and and i

552
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,520
asked her i said

553
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,960
don't take this the wrong way but are

554
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,640
you banging at three o'clock in the

555
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:01,120
morning on something or do you know you

556
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:03,279
know what that noise is we're hearing

557
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,320
she said

558
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,480
oh yeah that's the that's your neighbors

559
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,320
across the street i've been hearing it

560
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:11,600
for years i have voices in my home i've

561
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:14,640
seen shadows all these different things

562
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:15,600
and

563
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,559
you know i i i

564
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:21,760
am as a science guy so i started busting

565
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:25,039
out like emf meters and found all these

566
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:26,640
strange things

567
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:28,720
at different times

568
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,600
but luckily in our case it was never

569
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,400
malevolent there was never a malevolent

570
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,400
intent it was almost like something was

571
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:37,760
just trying to say

572
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,360
hey we're here you know and we've had

573
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:43,840
stuff fly off a table

574
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,679
and break we had knocking and rapping

575
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:50,640
and all these different things happen

576
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:52,960
but it was never really to the level of

577
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,039
malevolent and almost became a joke

578
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:56,880
after a while between me and my wife

579
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,520
like oh yeah that's i i said it was her

580
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,720
dead friends

581
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:03,360
street again

582
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,320
you know

583
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,480
but i i have to tell you

584
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,039
when we moved out of there i was happy

585
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,360
to to be because if it'll for even if

586
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,400
it's not malevolent it scares you after

587
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:16,320
a while three o'clock in the morning and

588
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,559
something falls off a table

589
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:20,720
you know for no reason

590
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:23,679
and uh i heard whispering

591
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:27,200
and all these different low-level sort

592
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,320
of things going on but luckily it never

593
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,559
got to the level of malevolent and

594
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,559
before that experience i thought

595
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,400
everybody talking about ghosts was full

596
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:39,600
of [\h__\h] i thought this is all [\h__\h]

597
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,400
but

598
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:43,039
we lived there for a few years and

599
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:44,240
it just kept

600
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,200
the the the number of experiences you

601
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:49,679
know wouldn't make a very exciting movie

602
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,279
because we were kind of boring some of

603
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,039
the stuff it wasn't very exciting

604
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,960
whispers voices

605
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,360
banging wrapping stuff falling off

606
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,559
tables

607
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,039
you know stuff moving a little bit

608
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:03,440
and like you said almost mischievous

609
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:04,159
like

610
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,120
hiding your keys yeah stuff would move

611
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,080
i'd go out for a half hour i'd come back

612
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,679
and uh

613
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,120
you know like a

614
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,720
bouquet of flowers that was on the

615
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,960
kitchen table is now sitting in the

616
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,440
middle of the living room floor

617
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,120
you know

618
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:23,039
and then i know come in and i'm like

619
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:24,799
this is crazy but i would just put it

620
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:27,200
back i wouldn't think very much of it

621
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:29,679
except i can't explain what's going on

622
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:30,640
here

623
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,200
luckily it never it never

624
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,279
got to be

625
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,919
you know uh really negative

626
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,080
yeah yeah well you know you mentioned

627
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,360
that uh i live next to a cemetery here

628
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,360
in in the pittsburgh area there's a

629
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,120
cemetery right on the other side of my

630
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:50,159
fence here and i've had all the things

631
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,919
most of the things that you just said

632
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,760
i've had so the day i moved in this

633
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,600
house there was tapping in the wall and

634
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,360
i'd go in the hallway in the spare

635
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,360
bedroom and i'd say this is like just a

636
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,279
wall a dividing wall how is there

637
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,679
tapping there's no vent there there's no

638
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,159
piping and there's tapping i tap back it

639
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,240
would stop and then it would start again

640
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,679
you know like it had some sort of

641
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,840
intelligence and that has happened with

642
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,320
a number of other things and and the

643
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,240
weird thing is when i bought this house

644
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,000
this house was more expensive than i

645
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,399
could afford so i told the real estate

646
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,159
well let's go one level up and look for

647
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:24,000
houses i found this one it was really

648
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:24,880
nice

649
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,159
and um when i got to the back door and i

650
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,960
looked out the back door boom there was

651
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,760
a flashback when i was a six seven

652
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,760
eight-year-old kid i used to have these

653
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:37,919
dreams i would be

654
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,240
standing in the doorway and there was a

655
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,200
beige brick wall to my left and i'm

656
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,679
looking out at a cemetery and when i got

657
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,039
to this house

658
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,360
that was the view and i bought this

659
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:50,960
house i actually got them to come down

660
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,640
15 in the price i bought the house and

661
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:56,799
that was the view i had seen as a little

662
00:29:02,789 --> 00:28:59,840
kid and i've told people i will never be

663
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,799
leaving this house and i've been here 19

664
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,320
years the longest i've ever lived

665
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,039
anywhere and uh you know i

666
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,120
really believe i i'm going to stay here

667
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,399
and i got all the things i'll tell you

668
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,559
as i get through this uh you know some

669
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,640
other things i want to let you know

670
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,760
sure sure yeah that's okay it's like a

671
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:19,840
synchronicity moment

672
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,559
when you have that experience like that

673
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,320
and doesn't it make you think like well

674
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,320
i this is the house i'm meant to be and

675
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,039
then absolutely i was meant to be here

676
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,600
and i i know i'm never going to move and

677
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:33,520
you know even like at ups we get

678
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:35,919
transferred every three to five years

679
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,120
i had two transfers come through

680
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,440
and both got cancelled mysteriously i

681
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,080
don't know one other person at my level

682
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,399
director level of management who was

683
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,919
told they were transferred i was

684
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,840
transferred to san francisco and then

685
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,159
two years later transferred to

686
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,480
the meadowlands new jersey and they both

687
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:57,120
got cancelled within like two days i

688
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,240
don't know anyone else that that

689
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,799
happened to then i stayed 15 years in

690
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,520
one location but when i moved in i told

691
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:05,840
people you watch i will never be leaving

692
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,600
this house alive and i plan i i plan to

693
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,840
retire i am retired now four years here

694
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,159
and i i think this is the house i'll die

695
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:15,279
in so

696
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:16,000
so

697
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,320
in my research then and it's important

698
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:20,320
because there's a lot of things i didn't

699
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,679
understand even though you know i went

700
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,399
to catechism and i'm catholic and stuff

701
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,880
yeah so i grew up catholic too so i have

702
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:29,600
some background about demons and devils

703
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,120
and demonology

704
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:34,000
we had priests come in and teach us

705
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,240
yeah stuff like that and but really it

706
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,320
was it was uh

707
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:40,960
the classes or or the talks that we were

708
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:43,760
given were based on like hey stay away

709
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,559
from the occult and here's why you know

710
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,559
that scared the hell out of me i never

711
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,880
touched a ouija board yeah

712
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,559
that was a good thing that was a good

713
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,640
thing but you know it's like you hear

714
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,880
about you know angels

715
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,559
and i would say i would say to people

716
00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:00,480
what's an archangel like what the heck's

717
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:02,840
an archangel you know how is that one

718
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,000
stronger i didn't know any of this and

719
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:09,440
what i recently found out there's nine

720
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:13,840
types of angels each more powerful right

721
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:16,840
so the top level your most

722
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,240
powerful uh angel's spirit is the

723
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:22,480
seraphim they're the pure light that's

724
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,039
what lucifer was was a seraphim right

725
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,200
below that is the cherubim they're the

726
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:29,840
guardians of the gates of heaven below

727
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:30,840
that is

728
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,320
thrones thrones carry out god's orders

729
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:37,200
okay that's the top three

730
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,799
the next three are called dominions they

731
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:42,640
regulate the angels

732
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,840
virtues perform miracles so god tells

733
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:47,600
them what to do they do it they perform

734
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,720
miracles and then powers powers are the

735
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,360
ones that fight they come back to fallen

736
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:54,559
angels

737
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:57,760
then you get to your bottom three

738
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,559
that is principalities who guard against

739
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,600
evil

740
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,720
archangels is number eight on the list

741
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:07,440
they command god's army that's michael

742
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,799
raphael uh and then the ninth level the

743
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,120
lowest level are angels they guard

744
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:15,919
humans they're guardian angels now the

745
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:18,799
only problem is that when

746
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:22,000
there was a rebellion in heaven

747
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,039
lucifer took one third of the angels

748
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,600
with him from all nine levels i never

749
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,200
understood any of this

750
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,360
and so i thought that i thought that the

751
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,679
highest level of angel was archangel i

752
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,279
thought those were

753
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,200
generals that's that's interesting now i

754
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:39,200
have to read more about that

755
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,679
yeah i mean that's funny

756
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,360
i just learned this in the last year

757
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,080
there's nine levels so now let's talk

758
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:48,880
about that same hierarchy with now with

759
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,480
the demonic side lucifer's army right

760
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,640
that top group

761
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:58,000
the seraphim cherubim thrones

762
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:59,200
are all

763
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,320
devils

764
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:02,640
i thought that just lucifer was the

765
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,000
devil i had no idea that that top three

766
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,039
levels and i don't know how many are in

767
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,760
that level or in those three how many

768
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,880
are out there 20 50 100 but they

769
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,960
actually have names for a lot of these

770
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:18,159
because every

771
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:22,320
the exorcist is trained he always asks

772
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,600
who he's speaking to what your name is

773
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,080
and they can then take them and put them

774
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,080
in these classifications

775
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,880
as far as uh you know who they are like

776
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:34,399
lucifer

777
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:37,840
biezebob uh sam jazza you know there

778
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,320
there are different names and they know

779
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,960
so those top three seraphim cherubim

780
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,159
thrones

781
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,640
they're all devils

782
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,120
and you gotta think how powerful lucifer

783
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,000
who's satan now how powerful he is

784
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,919
because he was the top level

785
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:55,440
he was one

786
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,799
level below god so so he is extremely

787
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,200
powerful so now you get to that middle

788
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:02,880
three right

789
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,000
those are not devils they're demons

790
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:08,800
they're very powerful demons those are

791
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,879
the dominions virtues and powers okay

792
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,280
but they're demons they're not devils

793
00:34:18,829 --> 00:34:17,200
and then the bottom three levels

794
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:18,839
principalities

795
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:22,000
archangels and angels

796
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:23,599
are the worker

797
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,200
demons they are the ones that that cause

798
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,159
infestation in your house the noises the

799
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,200
moving of objects those are ain't those

800
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,599
are demonic angels the demonic

801
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,079
archangels are the ones that

802
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,480
perpetrate the attacks on people the

803
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,720
scratching the biting that's called

804
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,079
oppression

805
00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:47,040
and the principalities and the powers

806
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:49,359
are the ones once you've been beaten

807
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,119
down and your mind is is broken from the

808
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,119
attacks and the noises and the sleep

809
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,480
deprivation

810
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,800
it's the principalities and powers the

811
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,400
demonic ones that

812
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:02,640
come into you and possess you i didn't

813
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:05,200
know any of that i never knew any of

814
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,640
that

815
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:08,079
yeah i

816
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,520
i mean i've always

817
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,920
listened to stories of of possession

818
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,160
things with great interest and and like

819
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,000
you said i grew up catholic so i have

820
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,640
some background into this but not that

821
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,040
detailed that's a great explanation of a

822
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,520
lot of this stuff yeah and i'm putting

823
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,359
all of this in a book you know and it'll

824
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,119
be out probably in july or august

825
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,520
somewhere around there and i'm putting

826
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,280
all my experiences which we'll talk

827
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,760
about in a few minutes but i think this

828
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,160
is going to be a great book

829
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,400
on demonology in the paranormal

830
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:39,920
everything because i when i get into

831
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,880
something i get all the facts and i make

832
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,680
it a manual of what you need to know to

833
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,839
survive you know so then you know i'm

834
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,359
looking at this thing and i've read

835
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,040
different books

836
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,800
and there's different types of events

837
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,520
that take place right so

838
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:57,359
the one thing that interests me and when

839
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,640
i tell you my story it's basically um i

840
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,119
think it's a generational thing the sins

841
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,359
of the parents can be passed on to three

842
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:07,440
or four generations and one of the

843
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:09,839
things i read that's very disturbing is

844
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,880
that they select you prior to birth

845
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,760
and

846
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,680
when they get to the third or fourth

847
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,240
generation and there's a demonic entity

848
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:20,320
attached to a person

849
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,680
the rules are they can claim that family

850
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:24,560
line

851
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,560
for them and take it away from god and

852
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:31,040
unless the person has the strong enough

853
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:32,400
free will

854
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:35,839
to uh break that chain and the family

855
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,720
line and scary

856
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,560
that's exactly where i'm at right now

857
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:42,560
and i'll tell you my story and i am

858
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,280
convinced this is generational but as

859
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,079
far as events that take place uh four

860
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:50,000
things that people need to know

861
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,960
there are natural events that follow the

862
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:55,119
laws of nature and science they're

863
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,240
natural

864
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:58,960
the word i never knew which is the word

865
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,320
that should be used is pretern natural i

866
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,240
never heard that before i've seen it

867
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,720
recently in a couple of books i read

868
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,040
but the word is preternatural

869
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,760
those are unnatural acts like being able

870
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,240
to levitate someone transforming into

871
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:17,040
something else conjuring up spirits

872
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,079
that's all called

873
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:21,040
preternatural

874
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,320
people use the word supernatural

875
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:26,880
supernatural are the positive things

876
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,839
they're miracles performed by god or as

877
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,760
angels so anytime you use the word

878
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,320
supernatural it should be in the good

879
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:35,520
sense

880
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,119
negative things are preternatural

881
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,200
i never knew that and the word

882
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:42,640
paranormal

883
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:46,000
it means anything that's unexplained by

884
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:47,200
science

885
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,280
can't explain

886
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,040
the parallel

887
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,599
yeah yeah i've heard i've heard the term

888
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,359
prader natural but i think it was in

889
00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,839
like a vampire story yeah

890
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,400
i've seen it occasionally recently

891
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,560
but it is the word that should be used

892
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:06,880
in all of these tv shows like you know

893
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:09,520
supernatural it's on tv right now the cw

894
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,720
i think it's you know come on that

895
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,560
should be called axle then it really

896
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:14,400
should be called well maybe maybe not

897
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,920
because they actually have angels in

898
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,280
there that are helping them so maybe

899
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:19,200
that's the good stuff but it's really

900
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:22,400
pretty natural is the the negative stuff

901
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:23,760
so uh

902
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:26,480
so then i looked into exorcism

903
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:29,599
and um exorcism well it was performed by

904
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:32,640
jesus obviously but the vatican the

905
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:36,720
church authorized exorcism in 1614.

906
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,200
what i find interesting is up until 1990

907
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,160
there were only about six exorcisms a

908
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:47,760
year that was authorized by the church

909
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,480
since 1990 there's about 1300 exorcisms

910
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,200
a year think about that it went from a

911
00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:58,400
handful to out of control and you can't

912
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,079
blame the movie exorcism that was 1973

913
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,520
the exorcist

914
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,839
yeah yeah absolutely

915
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:07,920
something changed

916
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,000
now with vatican ii in 1968 they

917
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:15,839
eliminated the saint michael prayer

918
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,800
which is the prayer you need to combat

919
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,560
these things

920
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,839
they say there has to be an invitation

921
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,320
you know it can be an interest in sci-fi

922
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,440
horror stuff playing with a tarot luigi

923
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,599
anything in the occult

924
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,320
you basically invite these things in and

925
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,720
most of the time unknowingly you've

926
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,960
opened the door and invited them in and

927
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,359
i think i've probably done that with my

928
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:43,599
interest in sci-fi i used to have tarot

929
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,480
cards uh you know i used to make models

930
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,720
you know frankenstein all those things i

931
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,280
think i inadvertently opened the door

932
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:53,920
they say never to provoke them and never

933
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:57,520
to communicate with them the problem is

934
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,640
they pretend to be ghosts of relatives

935
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,640
and when people hear the voice or see

936
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:04,560
the person they think oh there's my

937
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,079
grandmother it's not it's a demonic

938
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,720
entity that's pretending to be a

939
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,599
relative and then you invite them in so

940
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,079
you never ever want to speak to them and

941
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,000
that fact the only thing you should say

942
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,160
to them when you see something like that

943
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:22,800
or they talk to you is you you reply

944
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,000
back to them say you love jesus say you

945
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,560
love god if they won't do it they will

946
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,280
leave that's how you repel them if they

947
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,440
say yes i love jesus then you know

948
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,920
you're dealing with a ghost and probably

949
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,599
a ghost of a relative

950
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,160
but that's the only way to stop them um

951
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:41,920
interesting i've never heard that before

952
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:43,920
yeah you know that uh

953
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:46,560
catholic rite of exorcism though i have

954
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:49,599
that i have a book that the priests use

955
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,880
against shop actually like yeah

956
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,400
catholic shop i just wanted to read the

957
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,680
whole thing

958
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,119
and uh

959
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:58,800
you know it's very interesting to me

960
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,109
sanction so few and now there's so many

961
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,640
yeah i wouldn't think that it would go

962
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,440
down because they would be saying you

963
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:12,480
know oh well this is mental illness or

964
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,680
you know

965
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:16,079
whatever the case may be but not demonic

966
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:17,200
possession

967
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,560
yeah it's interesting to me that it's

968
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,560
gone up yeah it's gone up because

969
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,200
something is changing in our society

970
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,160
changing in the fabric of the world uh

971
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,400
is absolutely they're getting stronger

972
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,200
the demonic side is uh getting stronger

973
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,880
now one of the things i already

974
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,560
mentioned is

975
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,880
and this is why it's important you know

976
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,040
i like my kids go to

977
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:41,119
a non-denominal church and they have

978
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,079
music and big screens and it's to me

979
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:46,240
it's it's religious entertainment but at

980
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,599
least they go

981
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,160
i still go catholic for a couple of

982
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,000
reasons one

983
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,640
it goes it catholic goes it's the oldest

984
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:57,200
it goes back to jesus two

985
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,480
they believe in uh exorcism they they

986
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,920
actually

987
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:03,599
they support the international

988
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,160
association of exorcists most of the

989
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:08,160
faith don't want anything to do with

990
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,920
exorcism or about 40 of pastors and

991
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,319
priests and other clergy

992
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,319
don't really believe the devil and

993
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,359
demons are real that's amazing they

994
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:21,440
think it's just a story and they don't

995
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:24,319
really think evil is an entity that's

996
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:27,680
roaming around and the last part that's

997
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,640
really important is you have to go to

998
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,280
confession and this has been proven in

999
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:35,359
exorcisms that

1000
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,079
the demonic can see

1001
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,800
your unconsent confessed sins the ones

1002
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,280
you haven't repented and actually really

1003
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,920
felt guilty and been forgiven of so if

1004
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,240
you don't go to confession that's why

1005
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,040
during an exorcism the demon will

1006
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,280
blurt out something about you what

1007
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,760
you've done or your family line

1008
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:58,400
because they haven't been confessed and

1009
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,440
repented so i stay catholic because i

1010
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:03,760
feel this strong connection to that's

1011
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,079
how you beat this thing you know but

1012
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,319
they are interesting because i i've read

1013
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,599
a few different

1014
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,920
possession cases

1015
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,880
where

1016
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,560
the people involved

1017
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,119
they were protestant and and in two

1018
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,520
cases i can recall

1019
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,839
that their minister the the families

1020
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,720
minister said you need a catholic priest

1021
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,480
right they don't even want to deal with

1022
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,319
it you've got to go to the catholics

1023
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,319
they know how to deal with this thing so

1024
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,319
yeah yeah there's some basis for that

1025
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,000
yeah if you want it done right you need

1026
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:36,000
a roman catholic priest and now the

1027
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,720
thing

1028
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,280
that's disappointing is

1029
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,680
i've contacted my church

1030
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,079
which i can almost see from my house i

1031
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,920
hear the bells go off

1032
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,000
and three times i've contacted them for

1033
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,599
a house cleansing

1034
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:51,440
and they don't reply they take my name

1035
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,880
and number and they have they don't get

1036
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,760
back to me and this is the same problem

1037
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,200
uh believe it or not the county

1038
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:59,200
commissioner in allegheny county which

1039
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,560
is pittsburgh

1040
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,319
his house was haunted he wrote a book

1041
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,160
the demon of brownsville road they're

1042
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,720
actually foxes making a tv series out of

1043
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,680
it and he said he had the same problem

1044
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,079
his local church

1045
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,680
didn't believe it or didn't want to get

1046
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,839
involved or was afraid to get involved

1047
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,880
because the exorcist or the priest takes

1048
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,760
a lot of mental and physical abuse when

1049
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,319
he comes up against these things and he

1050
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,119
said he actually did find

1051
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,040
um in pittsburgh

1052
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:31,040
some priests that were trained and and

1053
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,520
helped him out and that's probably my

1054
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:36,160
next step when i get to shortly telling

1055
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,200
you

1056
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,760
go up the chain and get to the bishop of

1057
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:41,839
your local area because i

1058
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,480
listen i i like to joke and say i'm a

1059
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:46,880
recovering catholic yeah and that's

1060
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,079
because

1061
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:50,400
when my father died he was a

1062
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,960
like a volunteer at that church for many

1063
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,440
many years the church the same place i

1064
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:57,520
went to school and everything

1065
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,800
and uh he he was dying in a hospice for

1066
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,640
like six months and didn't put his

1067
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,440
church envelopes in so when he died they

1068
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,280
didn't want to bury him because he

1069
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:09,200
missed six months of church envelopes

1070
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,560
and that just turned me off to the

1071
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,560
catholic church i said well we're all

1072
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,560
about money you know

1073
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,440
but i i've since come around and my

1074
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,280
son's four uh

1075
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,960
now he's going to be going to the same

1076
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,960
school because it's simply the best

1077
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,280
school so i made my peace with them and

1078
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,440
even the priests there and

1079
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:29,440
you know but they they tend to be not

1080
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:30,839
very uh

1081
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,400
responsive is but i've learned go up the

1082
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,280
chain

1083
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,119
if they're not going to help you who's

1084
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:40,079
who is your direct superior if the

1085
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,680
the person in charge of that church

1086
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,920
won't help you go up the chain and

1087
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,680
you'll find somebody somebody's going to

1088
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,440
help you you know

1089
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,599
and see i'm going to call them tomorrow

1090
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,680
because that is exactly what i've

1091
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,280
reasoned is

1092
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,839
i'm not a member i go and i drop money

1093
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,359
in the basket but they don't have me in

1094
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,839
the registry so when i call for help

1095
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,839
they go to their list and if you're not

1096
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,480
a member they don't help you yeah i know

1097
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,960
you really take attendance by the church

1098
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,960
envelopes so if you're not putting a

1099
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:10,800
church envelope with your team and the

1100
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:13,280
20 bucks or whatever you're giving

1101
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,680
you're not even on their radar now get

1102
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:17,920
this i wrote them a check in november

1103
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,240
for three thousand dollars and dropped

1104
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,480
it in the basket

1105
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,560
i didn't get a phone call they didn't

1106
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,040
acknowledge it they just deposited it

1107
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,520
right so here i am i'm a non-member

1108
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,520
asking for help they have no record of

1109
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,680
me yet i probably gave more to the

1110
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:35,520
church than most any of their other

1111
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,599
members did over the course of the year

1112
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,800
so i'm actually going to call them

1113
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,079
tomorrow and tell them that because

1114
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,359
obviously you only react to the paying

1115
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,640
customers

1116
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,160
and i'll give them the check i'm

1117
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,240
mentioning it but that's it and that's

1118
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,240
that's worth it for them you know

1119
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:51,920
and that's why people when you talk

1120
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,560
about religion and you talk about this

1121
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,200
and angels and demons that's why i want

1122
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,920
to say malevolent interdimensional

1123
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,680
entity because when you make it

1124
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,839
religious people just have bad

1125
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,440
experiences and i'm having a bad

1126
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:07,040
experience right now with my local

1127
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,800
church it's all about the money i truly

1128
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,440
believe that i i've known you know i

1129
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,440
went to catholic grade school catholic

1130
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,520
high school i was educated by priests

1131
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:18,960
and brothers

1132
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:21,280
and nuns and and i truly believe that

1133
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,640
those people

1134
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,800
are good people that genuinely want to

1135
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,359
help people but it's the administration

1136
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,520
in these churches that is sometimes the

1137
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:32,000
problem so you know yeah absolutely

1138
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,160
appeal to some of the priests on a more

1139
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:36,640
personal level tell them what's going on

1140
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,599
you know

1141
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,680
yeah absolutely

1142
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,319
i know that there's there was one priest

1143
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:45,119
in my local area who was famous

1144
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:45,920
for

1145
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,760
dealing with demonology and i wanted to

1146
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,520
know this guy i didn't really get to

1147
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,760
know him but you know so maybe in your

1148
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,079
area there's a guy you know you just

1149
00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:58,800
gotta find that guy that one priest that

1150
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,760
has that interest or experience

1151
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,520
yeah there is and then in pittsburgh

1152
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,839
about 30 miles away but i i'm going to

1153
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,359
like you said go up the chain and i'm

1154
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,599
going to tell them tomorrow what i think

1155
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,800
about

1156
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:13,040
the fact that they won't respond because

1157
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,559
i'm not a member and i'm going to give

1158
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,160
them the check number and date of my

1159
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,160
three thousand dollar check and set up

1160
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,440
their attention double write another one

1161
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,680
yeah i will write another check i need

1162
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,160
somebody to come here

1163
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:28,240
you know but it's a shame that that's

1164
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,319
what it's about so they won't they turn

1165
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,760
the cheek and won't help you if you're

1166
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,079
not showing them the green and that's a

1167
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,880
problem but uh okay getting back to uh

1168
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,680
exorcism um

1169
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:41,440
when you

1170
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,720
encounter these things you never say i

1171
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,040
you have to remove the word hi

1172
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,280
and you have to command it in the name

1173
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,880
of jesus

1174
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,400
that's the only way this works and i'll

1175
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,640
give you an example later

1176
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:56,319
now also reading through it they say

1177
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,599
i've read a couple of different books

1178
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,359
they say that they can take your body

1179
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,000
over but not your soul i'm not 100

1180
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:03,760
certain about that i think in the end

1181
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:06,720
for some people they take your soul also

1182
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:09,040
and you go that way instead of going up

1183
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,710
stands to reason if they're if they have

1184
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:17,520
that much effect on you in your life you

1185
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,400
know

1186
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,640
you mentioned something about uh you

1187
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,800
know exorcisms going up and mental

1188
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,880
illness well here's the thing if

1189
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:28,079
somebody is mentally ill they respond to

1190
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:29,520
medication

1191
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:32,800
if you're possessed by an entity you you

1192
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:35,520
don't respond to medication so and one

1193
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,400
of the books i read said there should be

1194
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,520
thousands and thousands of exorcisms be

1195
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:43,920
being performed on mentally ill people

1196
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,040
because that is their problem if the

1197
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,200
medication doesn't work

1198
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,760
it's most likely a possession

1199
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,079
that's that's interesting

1200
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:57,359
well yeah and i i i've been in a we have

1201
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,000
friends hospital here and uh

1202
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:02,800
you know i had an occasion to visit

1203
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,920
there not for myself of course but like

1204
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,680
and i saw a lot of people that if you

1205
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,119
didn't know

1206
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,880
you know that you were in a mental

1207
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:12,640
hospital i would say that person is

1208
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:15,359
acting like they're possessed yeah

1209
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,079
absolutely and and the last thing

1210
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,319
very importantly when you go up against

1211
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:21,839
these things

1212
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:24,839
you got to realize they've been here

1213
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,599
forever even if it's six thousand years

1214
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,040
like the bible says

1215
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,280
these things have roamed the earth as

1216
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,920
long as we've been here so

1217
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,000
they're very intelligent they're

1218
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,680
physically when they take over a

1219
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:40,160
person's body ex that you all of a

1220
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,280
sudden you

1221
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:43,599
multiply your strength by two three

1222
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,280
times and they never forget they never

1223
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:50,400
forgive because they hate humanity and

1224
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,079
they always return stronger so when you

1225
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,720
take them on you have to win

1226
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,119
otherwise they come back with the next

1227
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,920
level there's nine levels they come back

1228
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:03,599
with the next level and i'm going to

1229
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,480
tell you my story next yeah i'm anxious

1230
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:08,480
to hear this now because this is a

1231
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,079
personal experience yeah so i i gave you

1232
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,720
all the information you need

1233
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,280
on this topic now let's tell you what

1234
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,440
happened to me and you know the thing

1235
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,160
with me is these things happened

1236
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,760
sporadically

1237
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,200
over the years

1238
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:27,440
there'd be three four five years 16

1239
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:29,839
years between things and most of them

1240
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:33,119
were one-offs one time so you don't you

1241
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:34,559
know you say okay whoa that was

1242
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,319
interesting like if you all of a sudden

1243
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,760
found the flowers in the middle of the

1244
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,839
room then five years later you saw a

1245
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,000
chair move and then five years later you

1246
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:43,760
know you look at it and say holy [\h__\h]

1247
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:45,760
but but you know you don't have anything

1248
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:48,839
it's so spread out that it doesn't seem

1249
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,040
serious yeah so still with me and i've

1250
00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:54,390
gone back through my history

1251
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:55,880
four years old

1252
00:52:02,309 --> 00:51:59,200
1961 i remember being in bed living in

1253
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:02,319
an apartment in brooklyn and something

1254
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:05,920
grabbed my feet and i screamed the door

1255
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:09,040
opens my father my mother and my brother

1256
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,960
are standing there and i thought my

1257
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,880
brother did it and i saw him behind my

1258
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:15,359
parents and i realized he wasn't in the

1259
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:18,440
room so something grabbed my feet

1260
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:22,000
1969 now it's eight years later right

1261
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:23,599
i have an out-of-body experience i'm

1262
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,000
living in richmond hill queens and um

1263
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:29,760
i remember about three four nights in a

1264
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,720
row

1265
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:33,119
every night i was anxious to go to bed

1266
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,480
as soon as the sun went down like how

1267
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:36,160
many 12 year olds and queens are looking

1268
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,960
to go to bed i i can't wait to go to bed

1269
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:41,520
because every night i'm outside and i'm

1270
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:44,559
able to fly i'm flying above my

1271
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,079
neighborhood i can see the houses of my

1272
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:50,559
friends i'm above the trees and every

1273
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,839
night i go a little further it lasts for

1274
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,000
like i said about three or four nights

1275
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,200
and that was it 1969 i was 12 years old

1276
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:01,359
i mentioned that recurring dream that i

1277
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,760
had of seeing the brick and the

1278
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,720
in the

1279
00:53:08,109 --> 00:53:06,880
graveyard and which became the house i

1280
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:08,119
ended up buying

1281
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:11,760
1971 now so it's two years later

1282
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,800
my grandmother passes away my parents my

1283
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,960
brother sister they went to the hospital

1284
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,119
i didn't go that night it was in jamaica

1285
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:21,359
queens we're living on long island and

1286
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:24,800
uh i i'm in my room and i hear a female

1287
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:27,520
voice in the hallway in agony you know

1288
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,160
kind of let out a scream he scared the

1289
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:32,480
crap out of me i jumped up i locked my

1290
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:35,839
bedroom door it definitely happened and

1291
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:38,559
about my parents get home i didn't say

1292
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,720
anything a couple hours later the call

1293
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,079
comes from the hospital that my

1294
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,559
grandmother passed away i guarantee you

1295
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,119
that was her soul leaving the body

1296
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:50,800
before the body died and i heard it okay

1297
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,599
yeah so that's 1971. now two years later

1298
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:54,960
and i guess like i said this happens

1299
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,440
every few years two years later 1973.

1300
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,920
okay 1973 the exorcist came out i

1301
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:03,440
remember that movie is the only movie

1302
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:06,800
that ever that ever scared me because i

1303
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:09,599
knew that could happen to somebody the

1304
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:12,640
exorcist right so uh we both had a huge

1305
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,079
ufo wave across the country in 1973

1306
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,240
up to mississippi across pennsylvania it

1307
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:19,760
ended up in uh

1308
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:22,480
in new hampshire but uh so i you know

1309
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,680
i'm at this point uh 16 years old i just

1310
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:27,520
played a bubble header or a softball i

1311
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:29,599
remember it's like late afternoon

1312
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:32,559
i laid down on my bed i was asleep this

1313
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,559
was a lucid dream right but

1314
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,640
i'm in my backyard

1315
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,720
in my dream i opened up like the

1316
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,799
basement door to go in

1317
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,079
it's kind of like one of those storm

1318
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:46,319
doors on an angle and i open it up and

1319
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,440
it's a cave i go down the cave about two

1320
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,000
three layer levels i can see the light

1321
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,640
from the doorway something is coming up

1322
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:56,720
from the lower levels up

1323
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,520
i turn i'm running in slow motion right

1324
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,839
this thing is behind me i can feel it

1325
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:05,680
breathing on my back

1326
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,559
you know and i'm saying to myself do not

1327
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:11,280
turn and look at it if you look at it

1328
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:14,319
you're not waking up from this dream

1329
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,000
move do something i can see the doorway

1330
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:21,440
i'm concentrating i move my hand i wake

1331
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:24,480
up i'm telling you steve i sit up in bed

1332
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,280
my heart is beating like 180 beats a

1333
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,000
minute i'm covered in sweat i knew it

1334
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:32,880
was a dream but it was such a lucid

1335
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:35,760
dream i know if i turned around this was

1336
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,799
satan or a demon or devil i would have

1337
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:40,640
died in my dream right then i would have

1338
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,359
died in my sleep in my room now the

1339
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,680
thing that happens also that i just

1340
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:48,480
recently found out about from my sister

1341
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,960
who i'm 16 she's 10 in 1973

1342
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:54,640
in her room

1343
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,480
she has an annabelle doll experience she

1344
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,400
will not tell me the full story but

1345
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,680
she'll say john don't ask me i'm telling

1346
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,839
you i had this doll and i remember the

1347
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,760
dollar was a blonde hair doll about

1348
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,680
three feet tall

1349
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,480
this thing moved walks talked it did

1350
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,440
something like annabelle my sister is

1351
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,079
petrified of that even when i tell her

1352
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,160
my story i don't want to hear it she's

1353
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,960
coming to visit in june she goes john

1354
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,240
i'm not staying at your house we're

1355
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,920
saying they're coming from long island

1356
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,520
here to pittsburgh

1357
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,280
they're staying in a hotel she won't

1358
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,359
sleep in this house and she's got her 13

1359
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,200
year old daughter with her

1360
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,680
she is so petrified but she had an

1361
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:37,680
annabelle doll experience the same time

1362
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,440
i had that lucid dream

1363
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:41,520
so

1364
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,440
go by it's 1988.

1365
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:49,920
and this may be nothing so my my high

1366
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,240
school years my college years married

1367
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,559
kids everything's fine nothing happens

1368
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:56,559
we're still living on long island i'm

1369
00:57:02,630 --> 00:56:59,680
working for ups i go to europe

1370
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,640
and it's 1988 i spend thanksgiving in

1371
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:05,520
germany my wife is fuming at me

1372
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,319
i get done a day early i try to switch

1373
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,400
my flight a day early

1374
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:13,920
out of london and um i tried to switch

1375
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:16,880
it to pan am flight 103.

1376
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:17,839
i did

1377
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:22,400
switch because it was 600 to make the

1378
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,839
plane switch and i knew the company

1379
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,240
wouldn't pay for it so i fly back

1380
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:29,040
december 22nd 1988.

1381
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:30,880
i get on the plane everyone's buzzing

1382
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:33,040
about the flight the morning before that

1383
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:35,839
blew up and that was my flight

1384
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,480
that i could have got on i don't know if

1385
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,880
that means anything it may not because

1386
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:43,200
these things were happening to me prior

1387
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,960
to that but

1388
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:46,880
from that point on

1389
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:50,799
it starts to change okay so so uh two

1390
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,640
weeks later we get transferred to

1391
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,559
oklahoma city

1392
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,440
because

1393
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,040
my wife wouldn't move to europe who was

1394
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:59,440
supposed to move there for a big huge

1395
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,720
promotion

1396
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:02,880
with ups be in charge of security for

1397
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,359
europe it didn't she wouldn't go so

1398
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,599
we're in oklahoma

1399
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:09,520
she's very unhappy her entire

1400
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,680
personality changes and we talked about

1401
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,680
personality change

1402
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,599
she becomes somebody else she leaves me

1403
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:17,839
three times in two years her whole

1404
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,480
personality changes two things happen

1405
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,200
there i hear a voice in the hallway i

1406
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:24,960
remember i'm going to bed

1407
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:27,200
and i hear a male voice it sounded like

1408
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:30,640
an indian chant to me they went

1409
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,520
like that really loud right and the

1410
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:35,440
other thing that happened we were

1411
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,920
watching tv and i remember it america's

1412
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,599
funniest videos were sitting there

1413
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,960
watching it

1414
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:43,200
and we hear three footsteps upstairs the

1415
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,359
kids are in bed they're three and five

1416
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:47,760
they're in bed three footsteps then

1417
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:50,000
three louder footsteps and i said to my

1418
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,680
wife are the kids up

1419
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,119
then three

1420
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,839
banging footsteps that i couldn't jump

1421
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:57,920
up and down and make this noise

1422
00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:00,480
i flew upstairs

1423
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:01,440
the kids

1424
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:05,440
and i checked under their beds every

1425
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:09,040
closet the toy box nothing's up there

1426
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:11,119
and you gotta watch for the threes three

1427
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,480
footsteps three sets three times

1428
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,520
and

1429
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,640
now it begins okay my wife becomes

1430
00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,119
somebody else

1431
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:23,520
she leads me basically in oklahoma

1432
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,480
returns to long island i get ups to

1433
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,200
transfer me back to new jersey so we're

1434
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,359
about 100 miles away

1435
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:33,680
she comes back for a year

1436
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:36,799
and this house we move into

1437
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:39,839
in 1991

1438
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,640
my kids now are being put and i didn't

1439
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:44,640
know this until recently

1440
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,720
they're being terrorized by some sort of

1441
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,359
poltergeist demonic stuff

1442
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:51,359
i'm being terrorized we move into the

1443
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:54,240
house this is like a hell house

1444
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,400
so this something's attached to me at

1445
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:58,640
this point and i think been attached for

1446
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,760
a long time so we move into this house

1447
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,680
i'm telling you steve

1448
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:05,920
i invite my parents over we're standing

1449
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,319
in the den the doorway and the den goes

1450
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:10,559
into the garage right my father says to

1451
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,760
me john what is that noise i say dad the

1452
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,000
moving boxes are in the garage you can

1453
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,000
hear them sliding around the garage

1454
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,640
floor on the cement he heard it

1455
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,799
other people heard it i was hearing it

1456
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,240
for weeks

1457
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,400
you know and you know what a heavy box

1458
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,400
on a cement floor sounds like very

1459
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,160
distinctive right

1460
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,270
now all kinds of things happen we hear a

1461
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:37,760
rocking chair in the spare bedroom we

1462
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,280
hear a baby crying there are shadows on

1463
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,440
moving on the ceiling i have my my

1464
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,440
sister and the family over they were the

1465
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,119
first ones to see it john they were

1466
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,680
screaming john come in here look at this

1467
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:51,440
there's a shadow moving across the

1468
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:53,920
ceiling i see it with my girlfriend

1469
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:56,880
months later

1470
01:01:02,230 --> 01:00:59,839
my son he

1471
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:02,240
he says that i would lay down at night

1472
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:04,400
and hear a voice in the wall with behind

1473
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,880
my head the headboard and it would say

1474
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,359
i'm going to get you my daughter heard

1475
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:11,040
the same things in the spare bedroom

1476
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,559
with the rocking chair and the baby

1477
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:15,359
crying uh my son

1478
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,520
sees a creature walk down the hallway

1479
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:21,359
uh like a hairy

1480
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,240
like a bigfoot basically like like uh

1481
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:26,960
mr you know that hairy creature that was

1482
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,710
and i was sleeping one night i woke up

1483
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:34,559
in the middle of the night there's a kid

1484
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:36,640
standing at the foot of the bed i

1485
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,480
thought it was my son he was about the

1486
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,799
same age like 10 years old at this point

1487
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:43,440
he had a bold cut haircut with blonde

1488
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,920
hair just like my son and he was wearing

1489
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:47,920
overalls and a plaid shirt i remember i

1490
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,480
said coming to bed it was my son he laid

1491
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,400
down i put my arm around him in the

1492
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,319
morning i asked my girlfriend she goes

1493
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:56,240
your kids didn't sleep over last night

1494
01:02:02,390 --> 01:01:59,119
it was as real as real can be that is

1495
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,400
creepy i'm telling you i'm creepy

1496
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:04,079
all the stuff that happened there and

1497
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:06,160
then my daughter afterwards after i we

1498
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:08,559
got divorced there and i moved to

1499
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:11,280
pittsburgh my daughter said one day she

1500
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,000
went with her friends back to the house

1501
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:16,400
and she said dad all the lights were on

1502
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,760
she's in the car with two of her

1503
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:19,200
girlfriends and she wanted to show them

1504
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:20,559
the old house because they're living in

1505
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:22,480
a in a townhouse now and this was a

1506
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:24,079
really big beautiful house with a

1507
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,960
built-in

1508
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,520
swimming pool and she goes dad we pull

1509
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,720
up

1510
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:30,559
every light in the house went off like

1511
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,480
somebody threw the circuit breaker the

1512
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,400
entire house went black she says they

1513
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:36,559
just whipped the car around and got out

1514
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:39,280
of the neighborhood wow yeah and they

1515
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:42,960
got out of there so 97 i moved to

1516
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,480
the pittsburgh area to pennsylvania

1517
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:48,319
that's where i write that first book i

1518
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:51,359
get involved in ufos in in 98 i write

1519
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:53,520
and start writing my book in 96 on the

1520
01:02:58,870 --> 01:02:56,319
mayan calendar the prophecy book but

1521
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,880
what happens is and this is see this to

1522
01:03:01,670 --> 01:03:00,720
me is very

1523
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:01,680
telling

1524
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:06,640
99 so now i joined mufon in 98 in 99 i

1525
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:09,680
go to my first ufo symposium the ufo

1526
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:11,760
conference and

1527
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:13,920
all kinds of things the big up until

1528
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,720
that point the biggest attack on me

1529
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:18,799
oppression takes place

1530
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:22,799
in july 4th of 99. so what happens is i

1531
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:25,440
go to the symposium in

1532
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:28,480
over by washington dc northern virginia

1533
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:31,520
i'm there and i'm single at this point

1534
01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:33,920
so i'm divorced this woman comes in i

1535
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,079
remember it was like 11 o'clock

1536
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:39,119
so she comes into the symposium

1537
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:40,880
and she's really attractive but

1538
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,039
different looking her facial features i

1539
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:44,799
kept looking at her

1540
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:47,039
i made sure at lunch i got behind her

1541
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:49,440
online i had lunch with her

1542
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:52,880
and she was pale as pale can be

1543
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:55,839
red bloodshot gray eyes

1544
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:57,119
i'm telling you there was something

1545
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,200
about her like i'm thinking hybrid

1546
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:01,440
there's something about this woman not

1547
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:02,319
right

1548
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,480
one i guess yeah i guess because they

1549
01:04:11,910 --> 01:04:08,160
would show up there right to find out

1550
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:11,920
what we're thinking or to infiltrate but

1551
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:13,920
so look at this i go back to the

1552
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:16,319
symposium at one o'clock she showed up

1553
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:18,880
at 11. she's not there at one and she

1554
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:21,039
never comes back to the symposium who

1555
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:22,960
pays to go to a symposium and you're

1556
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:26,000
there for one hour and lunch two hours

1557
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:28,720
and you you never return so

1558
01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,640
i it doesn't make any sense so i go home

1559
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,240
during the lunch or what did you guys

1560
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:34,559
talk about it was just small talk it was

1561
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,240
just you know i was kind of like hitting

1562
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:38,160
on her a little bit but i never saw

1563
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:39,839
maybe i drove her off and she ran from

1564
01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:42,240
the symposium she maybe she was able to

1565
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,240
she was able to read my mind and said

1566
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,240
i'm getting out of here

1567
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:48,079
yeah

1568
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:50,400
but what happens though now and that may

1569
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:53,119
be nothing right maybe she was albino i

1570
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:54,960
don't know so

1571
01:04:59,349 --> 01:04:58,400
i leave i come home it's fourth of july

1572
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:59,359
right

1573
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:01,039
i didn't stay for the fireworks i get

1574
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,160
home

1575
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:04,799
now the next four nights i have some of

1576
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,480
the worst lucid dreams possible i have

1577
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:10,160
another out-of-body experience i'm

1578
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:13,680
floating above my house this is exactly

1579
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:15,039
30 years

1580
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:17,920
after the first one i had in 1969 and

1581
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,480
summer of 99 exactly 30 years later i'm

1582
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,960
having these weird dreams there's that

1583
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:26,640
hairy creature

1584
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:28,960
standing by the side of my bed i'm

1585
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:31,920
waking up swinging my fist at the air

1586
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,000
because i noticed something in the room

1587
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:36,799
there's such a feeling of a presence in

1588
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,119
the room with me i didn't understand any

1589
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,960
of this demonic stuff back then i didn't

1590
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:42,880
start looking into it till recently and

1591
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:45,599
i'll tell you why in a few minutes but

1592
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:47,119
so i'm waking up

1593
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:49,359
i can't sleep i'm waking up like every

1594
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,760
hour because i noticed something in in

1595
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,280
the house there's something in the room

1596
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:55,760
with me i'm having these dreams i have a

1597
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:58,160
pair of dopamines at the time

1598
01:06:03,349 --> 01:05:59,520
and the one

1599
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,359
female she's 95 pounds all muscle i had

1600
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:05,440
i'm having these dreams of the dog is

1601
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,440
floating in the air and i remember the

1602
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,200
room was like a

1603
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:11,599
beige color there was no furniture no

1604
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:13,760
nothing my dog's just floating in the

1605
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:17,359
air sideways there's a kid there

1606
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:19,599
poking the dog and i kept yelling at the

1607
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,000
kid stop poking the dog stop poking the

1608
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:24,720
dog and he opened the door but this kid

1609
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:27,760
didn't look human he had big bulging

1610
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:30,640
eyes he had straggly hair like hair

1611
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,240
plugs he had huge popeye forearms and

1612
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,720
the bone was sticking out of the elbow

1613
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:38,400
so you know so i'm starting to think

1614
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,240
this is like an alien abduction and

1615
01:06:44,829 --> 01:06:42,400
these are some sort of hybrids and stuff

1616
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:44,839
right so but the thing

1617
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:49,440
is i also see another kid that's this

1618
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:52,960
rat boy he he looks like nosferatu the

1619
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,039
vampire but he's got these buck teeth in

1620
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:57,520
the front and he has a face like a rat

1621
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,760
boy and his hair is slicked back i

1622
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:01,200
remember getting the impression like a

1623
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,039
vampire like nosferatu and uh

1624
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,839
it's funny though when i woke up i wrote

1625
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:08,880
down

1626
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:10,640
uh what i

1627
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,280
what happened but i only wrote down the

1628
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,720
rat boy

1629
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:16,640
i didn't write down the other one the

1630
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:19,440
other one was a memory that came back to

1631
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,680
me like years later

1632
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:23,760
when i thought about it it was the kid

1633
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,319
with the bulging eyes i completely

1634
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:28,880
forgot about the rat boy until i went

1635
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,640
back to my notes and said wait a minute

1636
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,480
yeah i remember that the rat boy was

1637
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,000
there but not the other one so i don't

1638
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,559
know what that means there's two kids

1639
01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:38,480
like one's a screen memory were they

1640
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:40,160
both there i don't know what that what

1641
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:41,039
it was

1642
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,839
so so this goes on for about four nights

1643
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,119
right

1644
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:46,960
my girlfriend at the time

1645
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:49,520
she actually went on the ufo website and

1646
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,200
she goes john july 4th there's a ufo

1647
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:56,079
sighting at penn state there's another

1648
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,559
one at west virginia in uh wvu at

1649
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:02,720
morgantown west virginia she goes your

1650
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:05,440
house is in direct line with that

1651
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:08,240
so that ufo from from penn state to

1652
01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:09,920
virginia would have flown right over my

1653
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,319
house and that's when this uh this

1654
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:15,039
encounter started right so here i am

1655
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,000
thinking okay ufos went to a ufo

1656
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:20,799
conference ufo abduction i speak to dr

1657
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:21,759
david

1658
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:26,400
you've told me this is not an abduction

1659
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:28,640
they don't happen 30 years apart they

1660
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:31,199
happened continuously

1661
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:32,640
then he asked me other questions they

1662
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,759
didn't add up he goes this is not a ufo

1663
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:37,679
abduction so

1664
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:40,239
that goes on for about uh four four

1665
01:08:46,349 --> 01:08:42,799
nights right

1666
01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:46,359
so then it it quiets down that's

1667
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,239
1997. so seven years go by right so now

1668
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,159
it's 2004.

1669
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:54,319
i got this other girlfriend just moves

1670
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,279
in with me probably in august of 04

1671
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,679
and my kids are over and this is

1672
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,440
interesting my son just recently said

1673
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,480
this to me she said that do you realize

1674
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:06,799
that most of the demonic stuff that's

1675
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:09,359
happened has happened when the three of

1676
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:10,880
us were together

1677
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,279
right now in the divorce agreement i got

1678
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:16,080
my kids at thanksgiving my ex always got

1679
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,359
them at christmas because that's what

1680
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:19,359
she wanted so i said okay

1681
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:21,359
and whenever i was together with my kids

1682
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,960
not all the time but you know it would

1683
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:25,120
always be thanksgiving that we would

1684
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,080
have the pre-turn natural stuff happen

1685
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:31,120
so it's thanksgiving 2004. we have a

1686
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:33,440
great day we go to bed watch the

1687
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,679
football games turkey all of that we go

1688
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:38,400
to bed around midnight right i'm in bed

1689
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,440
i hear what i thought was my son

1690
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:43,279
outside my bedroom door because i closed

1691
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,920
the bedroom door right so now i wake up

1692
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:47,359
in the morning and this is after

1693
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,799
midnight i wake up in the morning and

1694
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,880
my girlfriend worked in a

1695
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,960
furniture store so she had to leave at

1696
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,400
like 9 30

1697
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:58,400
and she always used the bathroom hallway

1698
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,800
because she had so much makeup and stuff

1699
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,719
she didn't use the master bathroom she

1700
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,880
kept her clothing in the spare bedroom

1701
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:07,600
and used the spa the hallway bathroom so

1702
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:09,280
i get up

1703
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,000
i go into my bathroom i look on the

1704
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:13,920
mirror this is two

1705
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,960
giant arm and hand prints against the

1706
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,640
glass and i have a picture of it and

1707
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:20,960
it's in my book right now here's the

1708
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,159
thing

1709
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:24,560
when she gets home i left it there

1710
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:27,120
she gets home we take her makeup and we

1711
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:29,199
dusted it so now you can see it really

1712
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,480
good right it's got six fingers

1713
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:34,400
and what you see is

1714
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:37,920
not the whole forearm the meat it's two

1715
01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:41,679
bones you see the two forearm bones on

1716
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:45,679
the glass and a six fingered hand and i

1717
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:48,719
measured it from finger tip to elbow was

1718
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,760
three inches taller than me

1719
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,080
and i couldn't lean over the counter put

1720
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:56,640
my elbow and hand on the glass because

1721
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,120
i'm not tall enough i'm six feet tall so

1722
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:01,840
i'm saying whatever did this was about

1723
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:04,880
seven feet tall and they're crossed and

1724
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:07,600
so there's two hands six fingers and you

1725
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,239
just see the bone of the of the forearm

1726
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,640
so i grabbed my son

1727
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,560
and i say to him nolan what were you

1728
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,159
doing outside our bedroom door at

1729
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,400
midnight and he looks at me and says dad

1730
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:21,120
i heard you outside my bedroom at

1731
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:23,600
midnight in the hallway something was in

1732
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,400
the freaking hallway that night and put

1733
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:28,159
these prints on

1734
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,600
on the mirror

1735
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:31,920
that's thanksgiving very creepy i'm

1736
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,679
telling you it gets worse

1737
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:35,600
this is this is not i haven't even got

1738
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:39,199
to the good stuff yet right so now 2007

1739
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:41,199
my father passes away

1740
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:44,800
i'm laying in bed i see a flash of light

1741
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:47,679
only in my left eye not my right eye

1742
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:51,040
and it was this dark black as

1743
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:53,360
black as black you ever want to see

1744
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,600
tunnel with the most brilliant

1745
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:57,840
electricity pouring out of it like a

1746
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,920
fountain like if you were looking above

1747
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,440
down at a fountain

1748
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:04,080
fountain but brilliant multi-colored

1749
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,360
electricity

1750
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:07,120
all of a sudden something i'm laying in

1751
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,400
bed my my arms are on my stomach crossed

1752
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:12,480
something puts its hand on my forearm

1753
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,400
and i can feel all the hairs on my arm

1754
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:16,880
move so i believe that was my father

1755
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,560
saying goodbye at that point you know

1756
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,280
that's 0.709

1757
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:24,640
now get this

1758
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,679
it's five in the morning i suddenly wake

1759
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:28,800
up

1760
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:30,640
and my bed

1761
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,280
is situated in my bedroom so i can see

1762
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,600
right down the hallway to the attic door

1763
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:36,960
and it's a finished attic you go

1764
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,760
upstairs i wake up i look there's a

1765
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,840
freaking guy standing there

1766
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,520
ain't human

1767
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:46,239
it's about seven feet tall

1768
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,520
a very slender

1769
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:52,080
has a like a 12 inch waist

1770
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:54,719
very long arms and legs and it's frozen

1771
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,440
standing there like in stride but it has

1772
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,120
a square head

1773
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:01,120
do you remember the movie district 9 the

1774
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,400
prawns

1775
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,800
yeah yeah that's exactly what it looked

1776
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,360
like it was built like that with long

1777
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,600
arms but a square head i got the

1778
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:11,600
impression he was wearing a helmet but

1779
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:13,120
the weird thing is

1780
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,679
the stairway to the attic is look like

1781
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:18,000
there's a light on in the attic and it's

1782
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,320
standing there i'm telling you steve i'm

1783
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,199
awake i'm looking at it i crawl to the

1784
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,679
footboard i mean this is 20 seconds that

1785
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:28,560
go by this thing is standing there it's

1786
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:31,760
i'm awake it's there the weird thing is

1787
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,440
my dog in the hallway sound asleep so i

1788
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,199
say to myself okay

1789
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:39,360
do i jump over the footboard and charge

1790
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:40,800
down the hallway

1791
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,600
or do i jump out of bed put the light on

1792
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:45,040
i said you know my luck i jump over the

1793
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,800
football i'm going to trip because

1794
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:48,800
there's a little chair there and stuff

1795
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,800
i step off turn the light on go over

1796
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:52,960
there boom the attic lights out and it's

1797
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:54,320
gone

1798
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:56,000
i look in the hallway

1799
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,080
my dog is sound asleep in the hallway

1800
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,400
and i say to myself you know what this

1801
01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:02,400
thing was about this was taller than the

1802
01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:04,000
door frame

1803
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,600
this was the thing that put those

1804
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,600
handprints on my glass

1805
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,400
because it was tall enough that was the

1806
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,120
thing that visited me five years earlier

1807
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:15,760
so so now

1808
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,880
now things ramp up now it's april of

1809
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:20,640
2010.

1810
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:22,719
i'm on the board of juvenile diabetes in

1811
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:25,760
pittsburgh we go to the gala and we can

1812
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,320
my kids went with me for the first time

1813
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:30,239
my son has juvenile diabetes so my

1814
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,199
daughter's there his fiancee we get home

1815
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:35,440
we go to bed it's after midnight april

1816
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:38,640
24th to 2010. all of a sudden at about

1817
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:40,159
four in the morning

1818
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:41,440
my daughter

1819
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:44,159
bursts into my room the door flies open

1820
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:45,920
she's screaming dad dad you're not gonna

1821
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:47,040
believe this i know you're not gonna

1822
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,080
believe this you're not gonna believe

1823
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:49,920
what just happened so i said vanessa

1824
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:52,159
tell me what happened she goes dad i got

1825
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:53,040
up

1826
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,040
i went downstairs to get a bottle of

1827
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,440
water there wasn't any i went to the

1828
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,080
basement refrigerator she goes dad i

1829
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,560
went downstairs there was something

1830
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,040
standing behind me she says i could feel

1831
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:07,600
it breathing on me it was right behind

1832
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:10,400
me my hair and my back my neck stood up

1833
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:12,560
she goes dad i went upstairs

1834
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,080
i laid down my bed and boom she said

1835
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:18,640
something laid on top of me and went

1836
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,199
into me and she said it was painful

1837
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:23,600
every muscle in her body

1838
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,840
ached as the thing went into her she

1839
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,320
goes i'm laying there on the ceiling are

1840
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:31,040
these black shadows spinning around

1841
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:34,000
flying around the ceiling she goes

1842
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:37,280
it pulls out of me she goes she like

1843
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:38,640
looks around

1844
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,360
she's laying there it happens again she

1845
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:43,840
says this time she's laying there she

1846
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,880
says she can move her eyes she can see

1847
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:48,400
in her mirror

1848
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:51,520
a shadow person standing in the doorway

1849
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:54,880
it says to the one that's in her

1850
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:58,719
when you're done with her i want to try

1851
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:00,640
out the other two

1852
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,120
meaning my son and his fiancee wow

1853
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,280
that's really creepy

1854
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:07,760
and just from the wording i know she

1855
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,120
didn't make it up

1856
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,280
nobody would word it that way like you

1857
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:13,360
want to try out my car you know when

1858
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,080
you're done with her i want to try out

1859
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:18,560
the other two and she goes dad when it

1860
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:20,400
was in her two times

1861
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:23,360
she said in her head it sounded like a

1862
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:24,320
like a

1863
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,040
like being in a crowded room like 40

1864
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:29,120
different voices talking at the same

1865
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,080
time

1866
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,560
and it scared the crap out of her and

1867
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,480
she said like me she was able to move

1868
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,760
her hand

1869
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,840
and and while it pulled out of her and

1870
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,679
she said she was able then jumped up and

1871
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:41,920
she said she ran down the hallway to my

1872
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,320
room so then we go down the hallway

1873
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:46,960
knock on my son's door wake them up she

1874
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:49,040
tells her what happens i'm looking at

1875
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,040
the fiance

1876
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,199
she's sitting there she gets like all

1877
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:55,679
pale and clammy she's swaying back and

1878
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:58,800
forth she's saying i don't feel good

1879
01:17:02,390 --> 01:16:59,600
they

1880
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,400
leave my son at like five in the morning

1881
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:04,560
packs the bags and they drove back to

1882
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:07,360
virginia and and they left the house so

1883
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,920
that was in 20 and it's all true that

1884
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,400
was in 2010 and my kids have had all the

1885
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:14,560
paranormal stuff happen to them in that

1886
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:16,000
house in new jersey because that's where

1887
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:18,880
they stayed and then later moved into a

1888
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,159
town house so now go out three years

1889
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,400
it's again thanksgiving

1890
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:26,960
2013 right

1891
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:30,159
we're watching the football game

1892
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:31,600
i don't think i ever want to come to

1893
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,480
your house on thanksgiving yeah i know

1894
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,480
it's like if you don't need if you don't

1895
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:38,239
need the turkey you know i've heard i've

1896
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:39,920
heard a lot of people

1897
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:43,120
talking about experiences like this and

1898
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:47,120
uh dates that are significant

1899
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,320
let me get to the next this day yeah

1900
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,000
sure and and there yeah i'll show you

1901
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:54,159
the significance so now it's and i don't

1902
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:55,280
want to run out of time here because

1903
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:56,960
we're going almost two hours it's

1904
01:18:01,830 --> 01:17:59,760
thanksgiving 2013. we're watching the

1905
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:01,840
football game i got a projector a home

1906
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:03,520
theater projector on the ceiling the

1907
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,400
screen comes down i'm standing there

1908
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:09,120
at the at the receiver all of a sudden

1909
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,000
my son says what's that we look up

1910
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:14,800
something moves across the ceiling it's

1911
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,120
like a snake goes right across the

1912
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,280
projector light it's a very intense

1913
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,080
light and you can see something just

1914
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:24,640
move across the ceiling like a snake and

1915
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:26,239
i think it was one of these these

1916
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,640
minions one of these demonic spirits

1917
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:31,040
moving across the ceiling so that's

1918
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,719
that's 2013 right um

1919
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:36,560
so you know at that same time i publish

1920
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,719
an alternative history of mankind which

1921
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,960
talks about us being genetically

1922
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:42,719
engineered i don't know if that was

1923
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:45,360
sacrilegious or not but

1924
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:47,600
so now let's go to the most prominent

1925
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,719
stuff that has really upset me

1926
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,480
it's june 6

1927
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,000
2014.

1928
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:56,960
i text people i know i say today's the

1929
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,440
20th anniversary of my divorce

1930
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,600
so what do you think happens the

1931
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,960
following night

1932
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:05,760
after the 20th anniversary

1933
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:07,520
there's a demonic entity in the house

1934
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,360
and that's why these dates are important

1935
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:12,080
thanksgiving and i later research and

1936
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:13,199
find out

1937
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:15,440
november is the peak month for demonic

1938
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:17,920
activity from from halloween to

1939
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:20,800
christmas but november being the peak so

1940
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:22,960
i'm get this i'm sitting in the living

1941
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,120
in the tv room with the watching the

1942
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:27,840
baseball game my dog i have 108 pound

1943
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,000
doberman he comes over and he's laying

1944
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,679
on my legs

1945
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,080
all of a sudden on the wall you it's the

1946
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,960
loudest bang you ever want to hear the

1947
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:39,360
dog and i both turned to the right at

1948
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:41,760
the same second that we heard it the

1949
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,640
picture on the wall flips up i got two

1950
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:46,800
indian headdresses on both sides of the

1951
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:49,199
picture you see the feathers blow side

1952
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:51,040
to side right

1953
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:52,080
so

1954
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:53,679
actually what happened right before i

1955
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:56,480
put the game on i went upstairs and i

1956
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,560
always open the attic door at night and

1957
01:20:02,709 --> 01:20:00,320
there's a skylight with screens that

1958
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:02,719
lets the cold air come in uh in the

1959
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:06,639
evening the bathroom upstairs it stunk

1960
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,880
like rotting flesh i thought the dog

1961
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:10,320
went in there and did his business on

1962
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:12,400
the floor or something

1963
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,440
it absolutely reeked i closed it smelled

1964
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:17,600
like a dead animal i put the fan on i

1965
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,920
closed that door right so now the game's

1966
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:21,679
over it's three hours later i go

1967
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,360
upstairs

1968
01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:26,159
it still smells like a dead animal in

1969
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:29,360
that room right so now i go i get to go

1970
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,120
i go to bed and my dog all of a sudden i

1971
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:35,520
see him like look he goes down the

1972
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:37,440
hallway to the attic

1973
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,480
the attic stairs he looks up he goes

1974
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,560
ballistic like something is there at the

1975
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,560
top of the stairs i'm telling you the

1976
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,880
way he barked i know when he sees the

1977
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:49,280
ups guy coming to the door and when he

1978
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:52,800
just barks he went ballistic like he

1979
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,719
sensed something so i go to bed the dog

1980
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:58,560
sleeps on that chair right in front of

1981
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,120
the footboard i can see his head i got

1982
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:03,679
the news on all of a sudden in my

1983
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:06,239
bathroom there's the loudest bang you

1984
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:08,719
ever want to hear both the dog and i

1985
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:10,480
return to the right same thing as

1986
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,320
downstairs something's in the house so

1987
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,840
the following day i start saying you

1988
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:16,880
know what

1989
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,679
i've never smelled anything like that i

1990
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,600
called some of my ghost hunter friends

1991
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:23,360
and they said john if it smells like

1992
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:25,840
rotting flesh a dead body dead animal

1993
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:28,239
you're dealing with a demonic entity now

1994
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:30,320
this isn't a poltergeist this isn't a

1995
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:31,360
ghost

1996
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:35,520
now i get concerned all right so um i

1997
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:37,280
start reading all the books i start my

1998
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,440
research it's almost two years now in

1999
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:41,280
two weeks it'll be two years that this

2000
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,719
this happened right

2001
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:45,040
so now what happens is

2002
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:47,440
you know you got a guardian angel too i

2003
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,760
meet this woman on a dating site and i

2004
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:51,199
start telling her this is how i lose

2005
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,199
most of my dates but you know i start

2006
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:55,360
telling her what happened and she goes

2007
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:57,920
john i'm coming over tomorrow she goes

2008
01:22:02,390 --> 01:21:59,760
i've dealt with this before and i said

2009
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:02,400
oh my god this is an angel right she

2010
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,199
comes over she brings her own holy water

2011
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:07,120
and she knows all of the saint michael

2012
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:09,760
prayers what to say all of that we go

2013
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:12,480
room to room we put crosses over the

2014
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,239
doors you know with holy water all of

2015
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,480
that right so the house now it really

2016
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:19,360
feels like refreshed you know so now

2017
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:22,480
it's a couple of months later in october

2018
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:24,880
all of a sudden i see my dog

2019
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:27,520
he perks up he runs down to the front

2020
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,440
door he is barking ballistic right

2021
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:33,120
i have spotlights all around the house

2022
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,679
nothing comes on i go downstairs to the

2023
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:36,880
front door

2024
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,960
i hear the loudest bang outside it

2025
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:42,400
couldn't get in the house because of the

2026
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,679
holy water in the prayers wow boom

2027
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,600
right i mean i stepped back it was so

2028
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:48,639
loud

2029
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,960
the next morning i go to my computer

2030
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:53,199
there's an email from my neighbor john

2031
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:56,480
did you hear that noise at 10 33 last

2032
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,080
night p.m

2033
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:00,159
she said i thought a deer ran into the

2034
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:03,040
garage door or a transformer exploded so

2035
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:05,360
my neighbor heard it i'm telling you it

2036
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:09,600
was that entity it couldn't get in right

2037
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,560
so now it was angry oh it was angry

2038
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:14,239
because it couldn't get in the house you

2039
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,040
know so i've gone and got the uh the

2040
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:19,440
medals blessed i buried them at the four

2041
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,280
corners of the house

2042
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,800
that hasn't helped

2043
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:24,000
so

2044
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:27,679
going back to church

2045
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:33,270
so now it's thanksgiving of 2015 six

2046
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:36,000
months ago right my daughter is living

2047
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:37,920
in north carolina she says dad we're

2048
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,639
flying up for thanksgiving and i thought

2049
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:42,480
she was staying in my house

2050
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:44,719
right so

2051
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:47,760
i don't that monday of thanksgiving

2052
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,080
right she's flying up wednesday i go

2053
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:52,159
upstairs to go to bed i notice her

2054
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:55,760
bedroom door is wide open i close it

2055
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:57,840
held the door open that's never happened

2056
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:00,400
in the 19 years i've lived here 18 years

2057
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:03,360
right the door's wide open tuesday night

2058
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,600
i go to bed i go upstairs again i look

2059
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:07,920
down the hallway her bedroom door is

2060
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:10,320
wide open they're sending me a message

2061
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:12,080
that they know she's coming and they're

2062
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:15,360
waiting for her right so now my daughter

2063
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,199
calls me wednesday morning before she

2064
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,440
flies out she goes dad we're not staying

2065
01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:21,760
with you her guardian angel is

2066
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:24,159
protecting her she goes we're staying at

2067
01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:27,280
nolan's house my son moved from d.c

2068
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:29,360
last july so they're staying at their

2069
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:31,840
house and he his wife is her best friend

2070
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,679
so and i was like kind of pissed at the

2071
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:35,280
time i said you're here five nights

2072
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,600
you're not staying here once she goes no

2073
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,719
so now

2074
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:41,120
it's i'm annoyed right but

2075
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,280
all that week all of a sudden i'm going

2076
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:45,600
into my bedroom every night something is

2077
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,199
pricking me like a sewing needle

2078
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,440
sticking me in my leg it was like holy

2079
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:52,080
[\h__\h] what is that i laid down

2080
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,040
yeah i lay down in bed something like

2081
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:57,199
stabs me in the head in the forehead i

2082
01:25:02,070 --> 01:24:59,440
got up i looked in the mirror right and

2083
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,080
and i said holy did i get bit by a bug i

2084
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:04,880
sat i laid down again it was even worse

2085
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:05,840
right

2086
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:09,360
then what happened then this whole week

2087
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:12,000
the tapping noises my son came over

2088
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:12,800
right

2089
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,600
and

2090
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,920
i said listen to the wall she was ted

2091
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,080
what is that i said

2092
01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,159
it's a tapping sound he goes oh it's got

2093
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:21,679
to be your mouse or something it's the

2094
01:25:26,950 --> 01:25:24,560
heat i said no look this is an outside

2095
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:26,960
wall there's brick on the other side it

2096
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:28,639
don't matter what room you're in

2097
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:31,920
bathroom tv room kitchen bedroom you

2098
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,719
hear tapping in the walls right i'm

2099
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:37,280
hearing movement in my ceiling like the

2100
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,560
exorcist you know that that loud

2101
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:42,560
noise in the ceiling like something is

2102
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:45,520
sliding around moving i hear creaking

2103
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,320
sounds then what happens after this is

2104
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:50,960
going on now for a couple of weeks right

2105
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:53,120
this is the sleep deprivation this is

2106
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:55,920
the first stage of infestation before

2107
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:58,080
they launch the physical attacks on you

2108
01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,679
well the poking is the physical that's

2109
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:02,000
the oppression now a weak minded person

2110
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,199
starts to break down at this point

2111
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,920
i didn't realize in 99 all those lucid

2112
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:09,520
dreams the

2113
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:11,840
hairy creature waking up

2114
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,400
that was oppression and that was the

2115
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:16,080
same thing

2116
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,120
but

2117
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:19,280
it's like it never got to me or anything

2118
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:20,320
because

2119
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:22,080
i think i didn't realize what was

2120
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:25,280
happening this is now worse and this is

2121
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,280
worse than what happened in june of 2014

2122
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:31,840
because when they come back they come

2123
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,159
back stronger with the next

2124
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:35,520
level of

2125
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,320
angel of demon i should say there's nine

2126
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:41,280
levels so now it's no longer an

2127
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,480
angel it's an archangel demonic entity

2128
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:46,719
right so now get this

2129
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:49,360
this has gone on for weeks now i go to

2130
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:50,400
bed

2131
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:53,760
the noises the tapping banging you hear

2132
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,920
popping sounds tapping all around the

2133
01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:58,480
room different corners at the same time

2134
01:27:02,629 --> 01:27:01,040
right all of a sudden i hear

2135
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:02,639
a

2136
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,040
so it stops

2137
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,520
i lay down you know and then obviously

2138
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,880
you can't sleep

2139
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:32,639
you know it's maybe 20 minutes later i

2140
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:33,920
open my eyes

2141
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:37,760
i sit up in my room it is pitch black i

2142
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,280
said wait a minute there was like

2143
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,159
moonlight coming in before now i have

2144
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:44,560
never seen my room so dark

2145
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:48,000
and i'm telling you steve the banging

2146
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,520
the creaking right above me it was about

2147
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,719
to launch an attack on me right so again

2148
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:56,719
i commanded it in the name of jesus

2149
01:28:03,750 --> 01:27:59,040
christ i said all the things but i added

2150
01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:03,760
to it if you do not obey if you fail to

2151
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:07,199
obey jesus christ you will go to the

2152
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,239
lake of fire now instead of at the end

2153
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:13,920
of days and steve as soon as i said that

2154
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,400
all of a sudden i saw a light

2155
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:18,400
all around me i looked

2156
01:28:24,790 --> 01:28:23,120
i saw a black veil lifting up and i saw

2157
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:24,800
the moonlight come in the window to the

2158
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:26,800
left of me the window to the right of me

2159
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:29,679
down the hallway my bathroom and for two

2160
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:31,600
seconds three seconds i could see this

2161
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:34,560
black veil just lifting straight up over

2162
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:36,239
me and it was gone

2163
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:37,920
so

2164
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:43,360
in my left eye like when my father

2165
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:45,600
passed away not my right eye

2166
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:49,600
in my left eye there were three shadows

2167
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,480
circling the ceiling fan counter

2168
01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,800
clockwise

2169
01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,080
all right and it's always

2170
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:57,760
counterclockwise because that's demonic

2171
01:29:03,430 --> 01:28:59,760
and it's always free to mock the holy

2172
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:03,440
trinity so so so in my mind

2173
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,320
this to me is proof

2174
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:08,880
that jesus christ is real and these

2175
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:12,320
demonic entities are real it only left

2176
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:14,480
when i used his name

2177
01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:17,440
and uh and and when you do some of this

2178
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,000
research like joe jordan

2179
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:22,080
he found numerous

2180
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,280
alien abduction cases that were repelled

2181
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:27,600
with the name of jesus christ

2182
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:28,320
so

2183
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:30,159
you know i'm a born again christian now

2184
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,000
i'm a totally different person than talk

2185
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:34,320
to you in your last interview i go to

2186
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:37,679
church almost every sunday

2187
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:40,719
know go to confession i say my prayers i

2188
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:43,920
gave this lecture two weeks ago in erie

2189
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:45,840
at my conference two people came up to

2190
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,440
me afterwards gave me their blessed

2191
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:49,920
rosaries which hang on the headboard on

2192
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:52,719
both sides of my bed and but it's not

2193
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:55,840
gone this thing is still there it's very

2194
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:56,639
weak

2195
01:30:01,910 --> 01:29:59,520
and the mistake i make the mistake i

2196
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:01,920
make is i mock it and you're not

2197
01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:03,920
supposed to do that because i'll get

2198
01:30:08,229 --> 01:30:06,320
pissed i'm not afraid of it i even i

2199
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:08,239
said to it in june when it made that

2200
01:30:12,070 --> 01:30:09,920
when it was there with the banging i

2201
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:12,080
said show yourself i'll rip your throat

2202
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:14,480
out i'm not afraid of it i'm angry at it

2203
01:30:20,310 --> 01:30:17,679
right so uh what i hear now is like

2204
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:20,320
two weeks will go by and i'll lay in bed

2205
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,280
and all of a sudden like last thursday i

2206
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,199
heard or two weeks ago on thursday i

2207
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:27,280
heard the movement in the ceiling

2208
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:29,280
there's like these popping sounds all

2209
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,120
around the room in the different corners

2210
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:33,840
of the room you know i'll hear a very

2211
01:30:38,870 --> 01:30:37,600
weak tapping like uh about a month ago i

2212
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:38,880
was

2213
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:42,880
standing in the doorway because my dog

2214
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:45,199
is there and all of a sudden i hear this

2215
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,159
vibrating in the wall i mean and i think

2216
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:50,480
the vibration has something to do with

2217
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:52,800
these dimensions it's a vibrational type

2218
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,320
thing inside a wall that's nothing but a

2219
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:58,480
retaining wall a separation wall there's

2220
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:00,400
nothing in it pipes

2221
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:03,600
ducts nothing you hear also the heat is

2222
01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:05,520
vibrating real

2223
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:07,199
fast

2224
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:09,120
and it turns into this knocking sound

2225
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:11,920
bang bang bang bang bang bang bang i

2226
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:14,320
knock on the wall it stops two three

2227
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:17,120
seconds later it starts up again and so

2228
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:19,920
but it's there and it's weak and in fact

2229
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:22,000
like last night i say my prayers so

2230
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:24,320
every night before i go to bed our

2231
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,120
father hail mary i asked

2232
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:29,520
michael for his protection archangel

2233
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:31,199
michael and then i say a few things to

2234
01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:32,480
jesus

2235
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:34,320
the last couple of nights as soon as i

2236
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:35,679
said that

2237
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:38,000
you hear that movement in the ceiling

2238
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:41,280
you hear a little popping sounds or or

2239
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:43,040
a little knocking

2240
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:45,440
very very weak i haven't gotten rid of

2241
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:47,920
it i don't know if what's left behind is

2242
01:31:52,629 --> 01:31:49,920
the poltergeist that you can't get rid

2243
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,639
of or it's one of these demonic entities

2244
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:54,639
but it's being held at bay

2245
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:57,120
by whoever my guardian angel is and i'll

2246
01:31:59,669 --> 01:31:58,400
tell you something else that happened

2247
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,679
and this this

2248
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:01,600
these things to me are absolute

2249
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:04,800
confirmations that jesus is real this

2250
01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:07,440
whole angels and demon thing you can say

2251
01:32:10,149 --> 01:32:09,280
what you want roll your eyeballs it's

2252
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:10,159
real

2253
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:12,880
i go let my dog out this was about a

2254
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,040
month ago right so i go in the basement

2255
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:17,520
i always let him out the back door i'm

2256
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:18,960
it's in the morning

2257
01:32:24,629 --> 01:32:21,679
i'm almost at the back door all of a

2258
01:32:27,830 --> 01:32:24,639
sudden i feel a hand on my head it was

2259
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:27,840
three fingers large fingers and it just

2260
01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:30,800
went across my forehead and my head

2261
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:33,520
it was like spongy but it was big

2262
01:32:37,189 --> 01:32:36,080
fingers i could feel it and i actually

2263
01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:37,199
said whoa

2264
01:32:41,110 --> 01:32:38,800
i turned the look at the ceiling i said

2265
01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:41,120
you can't do that

2266
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:44,560
this is a real physical hand on my head

2267
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:46,560
right and then so i left the dog then i

2268
01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:48,480
stayed in there and i said to myself why

2269
01:32:51,910 --> 01:32:49,600
you know

2270
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:51,920
there was nothing negative to that i

2271
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:54,400
said you know what that felt like it was

2272
01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:56,480
like the way i would pet the dog the way

2273
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:58,639
i put my hand on one of my kids heads

2274
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:00,960
when they were small i said john that

2275
01:33:08,310 --> 01:33:04,080
was a blessing you're a guardian angel

2276
01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:08,320
jesus somebody michael somebody said

2277
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:11,520
you're doing good you're fighting back

2278
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:13,840
you're repelling these things your mind

2279
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:15,920
is thinking the way it should be and it

2280
01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:17,920
was to me it was a blessing the other

2281
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:20,800
thing that happened was my dog

2282
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:23,040
and two things couple things happen

2283
01:33:27,590 --> 01:33:25,280
get this when this was all going on and

2284
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:27,600
i repelled it like that week that that

2285
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,920
black veil disappeared

2286
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:31,679
you know at night i'd say my prayers i'd

2287
01:33:37,510 --> 01:33:33,280
say things i said

2288
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:37,520
jesus help my dog my dog protected me

2289
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:40,960
my dog had the worst lyme disease i mean

2290
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:42,800
it was horrible i thought i'd have to

2291
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:44,400
put him down i even questioned now if

2292
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,400
that was the lyme's disease or that

2293
01:33:50,709 --> 01:33:48,480
wasn't some entity taking it out on the

2294
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:50,719
dog and

2295
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:52,960
my dog became very vicious he bit me

2296
01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:55,760
twice recently about a year ago so i

2297
01:34:01,030 --> 01:33:58,560
said to jesus my dog protected me when

2298
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:01,040
that entity was here he knew and he

2299
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:04,159
protected me protect my dog help him

2300
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:06,480
right a couple of days later i took him

2301
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:08,080
to the vet

2302
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:10,800
for another lyme disease test

2303
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,440
the prior one came in at 35 and it has

2304
01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:14,960
to be under 30. otherwise you got to

2305
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:16,639
give him all the medications again which

2306
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:19,440
i did so now it's six months later i

2307
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:21,840
take him back for the test came back at

2308
01:34:26,229 --> 01:34:23,440
zero

2309
01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:26,239
the dog not only doesn't have it anymore

2310
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:28,800
he is the nicest most affectionate dog

2311
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:30,719
you ever want to see my son even comes

2312
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:32,400
over my kids are afraid of the dog they

2313
01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:34,880
like keep their hands away from him

2314
01:34:39,430 --> 01:34:37,600
is that your dog is like oh jesus this

2315
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:39,440
is like a totally different dog i told

2316
01:34:42,709 --> 01:34:41,520
him what happened i asked jesus at the

2317
01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:42,719
same time

2318
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:46,159
my mother is in the hospital

2319
01:34:50,229 --> 01:34:47,760
they thought it was kidney failure at

2320
01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:50,239
the same night i asked help my help my

2321
01:34:53,990 --> 01:34:51,119
dog

2322
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:54,000
help my mother because she's dying it

2323
01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:55,920
turns out that it's a kidney infection

2324
01:35:04,149 --> 01:35:00,320
she's 100 cure now cured now no dialysis

2325
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:04,159
i also said help my brother he had a

2326
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:05,199
huge

2327
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:08,080
tumor on his thyroid cancerous

2328
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:09,760
they took it out

2329
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,560
and for like a month he says john i'm

2330
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:15,440
supposed to be on

2331
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:17,280
medication because they removed my

2332
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:19,280
thyroid he says everything's functioning

2333
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:20,400
well

2334
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:23,040
she says they don't understand it

2335
01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,679
so i asked jesus for three things help

2336
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:27,920
my mother help my brother help my dog

2337
01:35:32,550 --> 01:35:30,639
all three of them have had great

2338
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:32,560
experiences

2339
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:35,920
based on what i said so in my mind i saw

2340
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:39,119
a miracle i know what's real

2341
01:35:44,709 --> 01:35:41,600
i question now

2342
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:44,719
the alien abduction that's the gray

2343
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,560
the one that comes out of the corner of

2344
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,480
your room at night at three in the

2345
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:51,119
morning and does the same stuff like

2346
01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:53,440
when i read that list off to you uh

2347
01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:55,920
there were about sixty percent of those

2348
01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:57,360
factors

2349
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,600
are the same between alien abduction and

2350
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:02,000
demonic and i question that and let me

2351
01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:03,520
tell you one last thing before we run

2352
01:36:08,550 --> 01:36:06,800
out of time here now get this i i decide

2353
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,560
to write a book and this is hugely

2354
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:10,719
significant i'm writing a book i go to

2355
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:12,960
myrtle beach to visit my daughter

2356
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,560
it's april 20th of last month april 20th

2357
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:19,199
2016. i'm writing the book it's called

2358
01:36:23,830 --> 01:36:22,960
the ufologist right i get home

2359
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:23,840
now

2360
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:28,080
i i well i had ordered a headstone a six

2361
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:31,040
foot tall headstone it's the holy bible

2362
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,119
with my name and all my stuff on there

2363
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,119
they're installing it in that graveyard

2364
01:36:39,109 --> 01:36:37,280
right behind my house it's 20 feet from

2365
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,119
my stockade fence i didn't know they

2366
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,080
were doing that i get home i'm in my

2367
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:44,880
house i'm not even home an hour i look

2368
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,360
out into the backyard my half of my

2369
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:49,600
backyard on the other side of my fence

2370
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:52,880
line the wooded area burst into flames

2371
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:55,920
i'm telling you 200 feet when up in

2372
01:37:02,310 --> 01:36:58,960
flames this is april this isn't july

2373
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:02,320
when you have brush fires right

2374
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:03,199
so

2375
01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:05,280
then i find out the guys i see these

2376
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:07,199
three guys in the cemetery they call the

2377
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,560
fire department i call the fire

2378
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,360
department i find out they just finished

2379
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:13,280
installing my headstone and i got

2380
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:15,280
pictures of it it's very religious

2381
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:18,400
headstone and i got pictures of the fire

2382
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:21,280
every my my whole area behind right at

2383
01:37:25,270 --> 01:37:23,040
my fence line that never entered my

2384
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:25,280
property it was behind my fence line

2385
01:37:30,790 --> 01:37:29,040
about 150 200 feet went up in flames

2386
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:30,800
i think

2387
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:33,840
it was these entities these malevolent

2388
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:36,080
entities they didn't like the religious

2389
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:38,080
headstone where i'm going to be buried

2390
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,600
because i told you i'm never leaving

2391
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:42,239
this house alive uh and they what

2392
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:45,040
they're able to create this combustion

2393
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:47,520
they do it in during exorcisms they do

2394
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:50,320
it with people they do it with things

2395
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:52,560
it's too much of a coincidence that they

2396
01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:55,040
installed my headstone i'm writing a

2397
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,719
book to out this whole thing so

2398
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:58,639
everybody's going to know this is real

2399
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,440
and my backyard bursts into flames

2400
01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:03,360
plus i also had

2401
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:06,719
for 19 months a family of these red

2402
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:09,440
cardinals would fly into my windows

2403
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:12,080
constantly people are here

2404
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:13,600
and they said what is that look i said

2405
01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:16,000
look the bird is flying into the windows

2406
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:19,040
that day that the fire started

2407
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:20,880
it stopped and it hasn't happened for a

2408
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:22,239
month

2409
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:23,440
wow that's

2410
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:26,080
kind of a strange sequence of events

2411
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,719
that's yeah everything i've told you is

2412
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,719
absolutely true

2413
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,880
you're writing a book about this

2414
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:35,199
yeah it'll be out yeah it'll be it'll be

2415
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,400
out out this summer it's called the um

2416
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:40,480
it's called the ufologist

2417
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,159
well i've often thought that there's

2418
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:44,000
some connection between this alien

2419
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:46,320
abduction thing and and maybe something

2420
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:49,280
interdimensional angels demons watchers

2421
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:50,800
call it what you will

2422
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,560
yeah i agree you have a unique

2423
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:54,320
background to make these kind of

2424
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:55,920
judgments on this

2425
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:58,800
and i look forward to reading the book

2426
01:39:03,030 --> 01:38:59,600
yeah

2427
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:03,040
soon all of the stuff is in it all the

2428
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:05,360
evidence how to deal with it i think

2429
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:06,480
it's going to be the best book on

2430
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:08,639
demonology that's out there plus all my

2431
01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:11,520
experiences but and like when i give my

2432
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:13,520
my lectures now and everything i want

2433
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,119
people to know that uh this is real and

2434
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:19,440
uh it happened to me i don't have any

2435
01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:22,159
i'm not worried about telling people

2436
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:24,320
i do need to get that roman catholic

2437
01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:25,679
priest out here

2438
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:28,159
to drive out i was i don't recommend

2439
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:29,520
that and the other thing i would

2440
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:32,400
recommend is to definitely have some of

2441
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:36,639
those ghost hunter people with the gear

2442
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:38,800
because i i don't know if you ever heard

2443
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:42,159
but i have the the thing with the birds

2444
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:44,239
flying into the window could be

2445
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:46,400
electromagnetic

2446
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,520
emf

2447
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:49,199
yeah when there's a high concentration

2448
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,239
of emf it screws with their you know how

2449
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:54,960
birds have some kind of magnetic sense

2450
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:57,199
oh absolutely yeah and so i've heard

2451
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:00,080
when there's a big emf spike in your

2452
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:02,239
home somewhere that can cause the birds

2453
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:05,840
to do that and emf also causes

2454
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:07,760
and listen i'm not trying to say this is

2455
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,520
what it is but it's something that you

2456
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:12,480
should eliminate emf

2457
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:15,440
can cause all kinds of hallucinations

2458
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:16,159
and

2459
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,679
things

2460
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,920
and any any of the ghost hunters that

2461
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:23,280
i've met

2462
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:25,360
they all have emf meters and you can

2463
01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:27,840
even get an emf meter

2464
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:29,840
on your cell phone yeah i would go to

2465
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:31,440
your house and see if you can find a

2466
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:34,560
spike area or yeah you know

2467
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:35,920
you know what's funny is that when

2468
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:37,920
you're going through this my son even

2469
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,520
says like people said to me why didn't

2470
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,520
you take pictures of the birds i took a

2471
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:43,280
picture of fire why didn't you try to

2472
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:45,280
use recorders and video and all of that

2473
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:46,880
i said you know what when this is

2474
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:49,520
happening to you

2475
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:51,440
you're not interested in any of that the

2476
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:53,040
only thing that interests me right now

2477
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:54,639
is to get this thing out of my life and

2478
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:57,040
get it out of my house i don't need

2479
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:58,719
i agree with you if this was going on

2480
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:00,960
especially you know i feel different i

2481
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:03,119
think when i was younger and single i

2482
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:05,280
would think well this is you know kind

2483
01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:06,880
of strange but i wouldn't be that

2484
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:08,800
concerned but you know i have a wife and

2485
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:11,040
kids and you know i wouldn't want that

2486
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:14,320
kind of oppressive thing in my home

2487
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:17,600
yeah and well for me i know that this is

2488
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:18,400
a

2489
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:45,520
books

2490
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:47,920
they can claim your family line if it

2491
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,639
goes three or four generations and i am

2492
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:52,560
going to break it they are not going to

2493
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:54,880
get my kids i will break this one way or

2494
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:55,840
another

2495
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:58,159
yeah i i've never heard that but i have

2496
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:00,719
heard many people say that

2497
01:42:07,750 --> 01:42:05,590
belief that people have that the house

2498
01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:07,760
is haunted but the truth is it's not the

2499
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:10,159
house that's on it it's the people it's

2500
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,000
the person

2501
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,400
you can move and it'll it'll just follow

2502
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,400
you well it has from jersey from

2503
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:18,239
oklahoma to jersey yeah it worked for

2504
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:19,920
your whole story and i was thinking that

2505
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:21,840
the whole time mother well this is

2506
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:23,840
this is exactly what people talk about

2507
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:26,639
the house is not on it the person is

2508
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:28,639
yeah yeah i went to a

2509
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:30,560
fundraiser for my local congressman and

2510
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:32,320
there was a priest there and i started

2511
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:34,480
to tell him a little bit and he said

2512
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:36,080
that's exactly what he said to me he

2513
01:42:40,470 --> 01:42:38,800
said it's not the house it's you they're

2514
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,480
attached to you

2515
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:42,400
so but i got to get one of these priests

2516
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:45,199
to step up and come out here yeah i'm

2517
01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:46,960
sorry i wish i knew somebody i don't

2518
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:49,520
anymore i'm just getting back to

2519
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:51,520
the catholic church myself because my

2520
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:53,840
son's going to go to catholic uh

2521
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:56,480
pre-kindergarten because honestly that's

2522
01:43:01,430 --> 01:42:59,199
just the best place for him but yeah but

2523
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:01,440
the catholics are uniquely qualified to

2524
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:02,880
deal with that

2525
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,360
and the other thing that i hear people

2526
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:07,679
i always hear people would

2527
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:10,000
talk about the sage brush you know they

2528
01:43:13,830 --> 01:43:11,760
make this thing that they burn the

2529
01:43:16,629 --> 01:43:13,840
native americans have done it

2530
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,639
yeah something about sage clears

2531
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:18,800
negative spiritual energy you might try

2532
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,520
that i wish i had more suggestions for

2533
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:23,760
you but i think the priest is your first

2534
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,000
and best bet because

2535
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,840
they know how to combat these things and

2536
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:29,280
they have the

2537
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:31,520
they have i i truly believe that the

2538
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:33,840
vatican has all kinds of secret archives

2539
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:35,760
on demonology and all these things and

2540
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:37,040
they know more than they tell the

2541
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,560
general public

2542
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:41,119
absolutely equipped to help you you know

2543
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,199
so i i would just keep asking priests

2544
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:45,360
until somebody agreed to do it honestly

2545
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:46,159
yeah

2546
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,159
i i agree i agree and that's what that's

2547
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,880
what i'm like taking my time here

2548
01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:53,520
because other people like joe jordan has

2549
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:55,600
said to me all the power you need is

2550
01:44:00,629 --> 01:43:58,480
inside you these priests don't you don't

2551
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:00,639
need to go outside and find someone else

2552
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:03,679
to do it for you they say you have

2553
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:04,560
you have

2554
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,960
ability in you if you believe it and

2555
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:11,199
then you can drive them out like i did

2556
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:13,760
drive them out but they're not gone but

2557
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:15,520
i don't know if this is the poltergeist

2558
01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:18,000
that can't be driven out or this is the

2559
01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:20,320
demonic entity you know so i don't know

2560
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,199
what it is right now so um yeah but then

2561
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:25,360
in my you know then i say to myself

2562
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,639
what are you waiting for you're waiting

2563
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:28,400
for an actual physical attack where it

2564
01:44:32,070 --> 01:44:30,159
takes you and throws you across the room

2565
01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:32,080
or you feel your sheets get pulled off

2566
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:33,920
you at night or you levitate and can't

2567
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:35,679
move what are you waiting for get the

2568
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,080
damn priest there now before the because

2569
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:40,400
they always say when they come back they

2570
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,960
come back stronger and i that they did

2571
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,800
come back stronger and i don't think i

2572
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:46,480
want to deal with them coming back even

2573
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:48,400
stronger next time

2574
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,960
yeah yeah it could be it could be you

2575
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:52,800
know i've often heard that these things

2576
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,600
go in cycles and i and i thought that

2577
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:57,119
when you were telling your story it's

2578
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:59,600
kind of like the the level of the

2579
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:01,280
effects lesson

2580
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:03,840
and then over time they get

2581
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:06,080
more stronger and more stronger and more

2582
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:08,080
stronger and then you beat it back and

2583
01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:10,000
they lessen it sounds like that's

2584
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:12,320
exactly what you're going through yeah

2585
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,880
a period of low activity this is the

2586
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:17,280
time to attack them back i would think

2587
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:19,760
yeah i agree that's exactly the way i

2588
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:22,080
view it that if i don't get them out now

2589
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:23,520
it's gone from

2590
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,080
uh demonic angel to the demonic

2591
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:28,400
archangel it's going to go to that next

2592
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:29,679
level of

2593
01:45:33,830 --> 01:45:32,239
which is much more powerful

2594
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:33,840
and i even say to people who are

2595
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:35,679
interested in this

2596
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,159
you know occasionally an exorcist has

2597
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:41,040
done an exorcism and it was actually

2598
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:43,840
satan or it was one of those top three

2599
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:47,600
levels of a devil not a demon a devil

2600
01:45:53,189 --> 01:45:51,520
can you imagine how powerful that is i

2601
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:53,199
don't want to ever face that i don't

2602
01:45:58,149 --> 01:45:54,960
ever want to deal with that i'm dealing

2603
01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:58,159
right now with low-level worker bees you

2604
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,119
know

2605
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:01,040
as far but they are much stronger than

2606
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,560
us

2607
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,840
yeah i mean uh

2608
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:05,600
the story you told would scare the hell

2609
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:06,639
out of me

2610
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:09,119
yeah and if that's the low level you're

2611
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,800
right i would i wouldn't want to see the

2612
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:12,480
higher level stuff

2613
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:15,199
yeah i agree so that's my story that's

2614
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:17,440
you know right now uh when i give my

2615
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:19,360
presentations and stuff i'm trying to

2616
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,080
talk about how this demonology works how

2617
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:24,719
this relates to um

2618
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:26,320
what i believe is the gray alien

2619
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:28,400
abduction and that's why when we talked

2620
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:30,560
about that survey by the free group i

2621
01:46:34,550 --> 01:46:32,560
disagree there ain't nothing the only

2622
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,560
good thing about this is it drove me

2623
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:36,960
back to the church and i changed a lot

2624
01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:38,800
of the way i view things i view things

2625
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,320
now through the eyes of my soul if you

2626
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:44,320
say this if you do this

2627
01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:46,639
uh you know you could profit from it but

2628
01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:48,880
does that affect your soul is that a

2629
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:51,920
plus or a minus you know

2630
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:53,679
so that's how i view everything and

2631
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:55,679
everything i do i give money to people

2632
01:46:59,830 --> 01:46:56,480
now

2633
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:59,840
whatever is going to help i'm doing give

2634
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:02,400
me all you want

2635
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:05,280
i i do whatever is the right thing to do

2636
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:06,159
now

2637
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:07,119
sure

2638
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:08,639
well i want to thank you for taking the

2639
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,400
time to talk to us this is going to be

2640
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:12,800
quite an amazing show

2641
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:15,040
for anybody that has an interest and i

2642
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:18,239
will uh give your website details and

2643
01:47:22,629 --> 01:47:19,600
and

2644
01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:22,639
ways for people to contact you because i

2645
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:25,679
think you do amazing work

2646
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:27,440
i appreciate it and you know we'll see

2647
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:28,960
after a few weeks

2648
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:31,600
if we got to 30 000 hits on it

2649
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:38,550
well my friends what an incredible

2650
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:40,480
interview

2651
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:41,520
and you know

2652
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,360
it's important to me that you're able to

2653
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,679
get in touch with uh

2654
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,280
my guests

2655
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:49,679
because john's one of those open guys

2656
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,360
like if you want to give them a call or

2657
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,199
do you want to give them an email or you

2658
01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:54,960
want to send them a message it's very

2659
01:47:59,910 --> 01:47:56,719
easy to do that

2660
01:48:03,669 --> 01:47:59,920
you can reach them at johnventury.com

2661
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:05,270
dot

2662
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:07,920
and more importantly than that

2663
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:10,159
i think it's important especially for my

2664
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:11,199
local

2665
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:13,440
listeners who live in philadelphia like

2666
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,440
me that john's running the philadelphia

2667
01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:17,679
ufo conference at the sheraton bucks

2668
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:19,280
county

2669
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:20,800
hotel

2670
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:23,520
and this is on friday and saturday

2671
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:25,600
october 28th and 29th

2672
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:28,320
there's going to be a huge

2673
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:31,119
huge amount of incredible guests

2674
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:33,520
we've got john ventry himself giving a

2675
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:34,880
lecture

2676
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:37,280
uh we've got dinner with major george

2677
01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:40,239
filer who talks about military ufo cases

2678
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:42,320
rebecca hardcastle wright

2679
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:45,119
he talks about exo consciousness daryl

2680
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:49,840
sims uh he he is the alien hunter and

2681
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:51,280
you may have heard about some of his

2682
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:52,560
cases

2683
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:55,360
we have david palades

2684
01:48:58,830 --> 01:48:57,679
the missing information

2685
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:58,840
we have linda

2686
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,639
zimmerman

2687
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,800
talking about hudson valley and

2688
01:49:06,950 --> 01:49:04,719
different ufo cases

2689
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,960
we have jen stein talking about crop

2690
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:08,320
circles

2691
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:10,239
ken pfeiffer

2692
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:11,040
with

2693
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:13,040
presenting a great deal of ufo pictures

2694
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,719
and analysis

2695
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:16,719
there's a private cocktail hour with

2696
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:18,800
different speakers i mean this is going

2697
01:49:22,709 --> 01:49:19,679
to be

2698
01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:22,719
an incredibly fun event that is run by

2699
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:25,199
mufon and john ventri

2700
01:49:27,830 --> 01:49:26,000
and

2701
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:27,840
to get more information on that you can

2702
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:34,310
and i'm going to put the flyer

2703
01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:37,760
uh in the video so you'll see exactly uh

2704
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,199
what you're going to get

2705
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:41,679
i highly recommend this i'm going to be

2706
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:43,840
there myself kind of scoping out new

2707
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,639
guests for my show and different stuff

2708
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:48,960
and i think it's going to be an

2709
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:52,400
incredible incredible thing to go and

2710
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:53,679
and not

2711
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:56,400
you know take a listen to if you're

2712
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:59,040
interested in ufos and

2713
01:50:01,830 --> 01:50:00,960
that kind of stuff

2714
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:01,840
now

2715
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,760
there's also the pittsburgh ufo

2716
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:05,599
conference that's on sunday november

2717
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:08,320
19th also run by john ventry at the

2718
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:10,639
ramada inn in greensburg and they're

2719
01:50:15,750 --> 01:50:12,480
gonna have james krug

2720
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:15,760
talking about apollo 20

2721
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:17,199
20 right

2722
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:20,400
is that math wrong not right

2723
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,520
i don't know

2724
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,320
go go listen to this lecture because i

2725
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,639
think it's very interesting

2726
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:28,480
um

2727
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:31,679
there is a lecture by john ventry and

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eichler about the kecksburg ufo case

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being solved

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i disagree with john on that but that's

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okay and we're going to have bob crane

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cranmer

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about a demon of brownsville road case

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we're going to have kathleen martin

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talking about angels demons or et's

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and most importantly we're going to have

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stanton friedman talking about the

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majestic 12 story it's going to be a

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private cocktail hour with different

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to pre-register or to get more

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01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:06,400
information

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i can't tell you enough how much

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i highly recommend this stuff run by

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john ventry because he's got fact based

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01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:16,880
great lecturers he's got all these

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different speakers and it's just a great

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time

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so if you're interested in the

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paranormal and specifically and most

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01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:27,119
importantly

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01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:30,080
if you're interested in ufos or aliens

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01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:33,520
or the secret space program or

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01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:36,159
politics it's very important that you

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01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:38,960
you know do your due diligence

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01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:40,560
if you really want to know about these

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01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:43,440
things and take the time i mean it's a

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01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,239
great time take a weekend off and go to

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01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:48,639
one of these things because if you're

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01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:50,480
really interested in this stuff i have

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01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,599
to say that it's like a really fun time

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01:51:57,189 --> 01:51:54,719
to go

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and listen to these different speakers

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maybe to buy some new books or videos

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and really get fully informed because

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i'm i'm one of those people that truly

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believes that saying the truth is out

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there but you have to go and you have to

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look for it it's not going to find you

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unless you go looking for it and uh john

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ventry runs these

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you know being a long-time member of

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mufon

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you know

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uh

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director and

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01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,800
you know kind of one of the big shots of

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mufon

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because of his television appearances

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and i have to say you may have seen

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john on so many different television

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shows including on the discovery channel

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01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,760
he's been on anderson cooper he's been

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on

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you know the history channel and

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01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,400
all these different television shows and

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01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:52,080
that's because

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this man is incredibly respected when it

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01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:56,400
comes to the subject of ufos and the

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paranormal

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and so if you're going to

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spend your hard-earned money and go to

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01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:04,800
one of these conferences don't go to one

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of the really badly run ones because

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i've been some of them and they're kind

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of

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like they have these

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crazy people that say i got abducted by

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01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:18,560
aliens no proof no

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no backup nothing and and uh you know

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it's

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some of these badly run ones

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i don't know they they tend to seem like

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01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:29,840
just a bunch of guys that want to tell

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some stories and get paid for it

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01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:34,880
but john runs some great ones and he's

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got some of the most respected people

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with him and that's the difference if

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you're going to spend your money if

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you're going to

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take the time especially because time is

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our most

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01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:48,080
valuable resource but if you're going to

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take some time and really look into

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01:53:53,830 --> 01:53:51,920
these things that you're interested in

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01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:53,840
if you're listening to this show you're

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01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:55,840
probably interested in the paranormal or

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01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:59,040
ufos or aliens or that kind of stuff

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i have to say that

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01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:02,880
going and seeing

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and experiencing a conference run by

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john ventry is worlds and worlds above

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01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:11,199
anything else you're going to get

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01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,159
and it's such a great value it's it's

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very inexpensive to go to one of these

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01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:18,960
things that john runs he wants to make

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01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:20,960
it accessible to everyone because he

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cares that people learn this information

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01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,800
and what a great guy john is for doing

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01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:28,960
that i want to congratulate him on these

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01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:31,440
conferences that he's been running

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and i'm gonna

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definitely be at the philadelphia one

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01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,719
because that's right in my hometown and

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01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:38,639
i'm really really hoping

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01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:40,400
because i got two kids and a lot of

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01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:42,800
responsibilities to get it

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01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,440
uh to get the free time to go to the one

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01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:47,119
in pittsburgh because i'd really like to

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01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:50,480
hear stan friedman speak in person

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01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:52,000
and he's got him

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01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:54,480
the godfather of ufology i mean what

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01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:56,719
gets better than that

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01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,639
this is one of the best

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01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:00,480
people you could ever hear talk about

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01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:03,440
the subject of ufos in stan freeman and

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01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:06,159
john venturi's got him on his pittsburgh

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01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:07,280
conference

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01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:09,920
what a great opportunity to hear

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01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:12,800
and learn and experience

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01:55:15,589 --> 01:55:14,560
some of this information that's out

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01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,599
there

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01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:17,520
it's very important that you avail

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01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:19,280
yourself of all the information that's

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01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,280
out there most importantly

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01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,920
is my show which i really started

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01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,440
because i wanted people to get some

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01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:27,840
information on this kind of stuff

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01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:30,480
and get fully informed

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01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,880
and i have to say that uh this has been

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01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:34,560
quite an adventure

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01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:36,800
but it's also been

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01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:38,800
quite a disappointment because i started

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01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:41,280
this show because i started you know

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01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:43,760
honestly i i started the show because i

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01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,000
built a recording studio my home and i

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01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:47,679
thought would it be great if i could do

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01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:50,480
this radio show for my home

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01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:53,840
and i tried everything after doing some

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01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:57,199
let's say demos of my show here

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01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:00,639
and we got very little response from all

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01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:03,119
these paranormal radio network people

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01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,400
and all these

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01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:06,719
established people

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01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:09,360
you know internet paranormal podcast

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01:56:13,669 --> 01:56:12,159
networks and all this other stuff

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01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:13,679
you know i really thought we were going

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01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,000
to easily get on some of these networks

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01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:18,239
and we got on none of them

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01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,119
and i got a great deal of resistance

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01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:22,960
but then i look at the ratings and the

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01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:24,320
viewership

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01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,199
and the top guys on all of those

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01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:29,040
radio networks that i was trying to get

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01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:29,920
on

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01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:30,800
are

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01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:32,639
well under us

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01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:35,440
in fact we blow them away

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01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,320
with 10 times more views so i just don't

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01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:40,159
get it

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01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:42,719
you know i'm a little disappointed but i

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01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:44,480
am determined to keep going because i

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01:56:48,390 --> 01:56:46,800
think this is something worth doing and

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01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:48,400
i guess i'd just like to know from those

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01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:51,119
people running these radio networks and

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01:56:57,990 --> 01:56:55,119
internet paranormal show networks like

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01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,000
i'm getting 10 times more views

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01:57:03,189 --> 01:57:01,199
and ratings than your top guys why am i

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01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:03,199
not welcome there

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01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:04,159
but

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i have to say that i'm very committed to

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01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,560
continuing regardless of the lack of

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01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:10,800
support we've gotten from that so-called

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01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:12,560
community because

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01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:15,599
i i get emails every day and and the

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01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:17,599
listeners to

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01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:20,719
us being an independent entity have been

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01:57:26,390 --> 01:57:22,880
amazing so i'm going to keep going with

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01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:26,400
this because i believe in it and

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01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:28,320
we're just going to keep going we've got

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01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,320
some incredible new shows we've got one

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01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:32,719
on bigfoot we've got one on

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01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:34,960
uh psychic phenomenon and most

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01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:37,679
importantly our season finale is on

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01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:38,920
finally debunking

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01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:40,320
[Music]

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the alien interview

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01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:46,800
that dvd that special that tv special on

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01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:50,840
fox from the 1990s we have conclusively

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01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:54,080
proved or will prove that it was a hoax

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01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:56,320
no one else on any of these paranormal

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01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:58,719
shows is doing that

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01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:01,520
and i'm so proud because for our mystery

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01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:02,880
man show

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01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:05,599
season finale we're gonna blow the doors

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01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:07,119
off of that thing

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01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:10,159
for 25 plus years everybody in the ufo

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01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:11,599
community has

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01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:14,639
debated whether this was real or a hoax

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01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:17,920
or whether it was just a made-up event

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01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:20,000
we're going to bring you the truth

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01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,199
nobody for 25 plus years has been able

2932
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,599
to do that conclusively

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01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:28,239
and we are gonna do it

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01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:30,159
so i would encourage you to keep

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01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:31,520
supporting us

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01:58:36,629 --> 01:58:34,000
share us on facebook share us on twitter

2937
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:36,639
help us get more viewers i want to thank

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01:58:41,830 --> 01:58:39,040
you so much for joining us tonight and

2939
01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:41,840
remind you that the truth is always out

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01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:44,159
there you just have to know where to

2941
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:45,440
look for it

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01:58:50,130 --> 01:58:47,280
thank you for joining us

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01:58:50,140 --> 01:59:17,510
[Music]

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:23,080
so

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]